mostly! On 3/13/07, Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
At 01:30 PM 3/13/2007, you wrote: Good points ..I know working in OB all the things a mom has that the baby does not get unless going through the birth canal, which is frequently a reason for C- sections,, i just want the TYPHOID MARRY attitude altered if possible,,,and then treat each cat for specific symptoms and not assume everything is FELV, i can say for certain with one FIV and one FELV..it is my other cats that drive up my vet bills with everything from CRF, DIABETES..IBD,,,and the thousands of other ailments and afflictions, I am preaching to the chiore here aren't I??? Kelly the latest stuff i've read--forgive me, those of you who want attribution, i'll find it again one of these days, really!--it may NOT primarily be passed in utero like it was once thought, but through mom's mucous membranes during the birth PROCESS, and during the nursing/cleaning/nurturing days of tinybabyhood--this might help explain why we're seeing so many mixed litters, and moms who are negative with babies who test positive at one point or another... in a colony environment, that'd make sense..... i also wonder if, since a litter can have as many dads as kittens, if there's an immune-response thing that's contributed by dad..... On 3/13/07, *Kelly L* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 01:21 PM 3/13/2007, you wrote: i just really wonder how many are just actually born with it or acquire it from their moms and are unable to throw the virus, We have finally come to realize how hard it is to get FIV and now it is time to really get some truthful answers about FELV.... kelly www.kellyscats.zoomshare.com i don't think that reliable research on that exists.... (remember, hard to do research on a population you regularly treat with euthanasia.) what i do know, is that there are no, zip, zilch, nada DOCUMENTED cases of truly negative cats (ie, cats who were tested at appropriate intervals using more than just the snap test, more than once) who were VACCINATED ever turning positive from living closely with truly positive cats (see above description....) i have heard some anecdotal stories where vaccinated cats have caught FeLV from the positive, but there's never been any proof that the cat was actually negative to start with, just as you say. if anyone can find me a documented case, i'll be unhappy, but i'd still like to see it--i find it very interesting that after all these years, no one's been able to find such documentation...... On 3/13/07, Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: if anyone out there has any reliable statistics on how many cats tested negative for FELV,,and then after living with positive kitties converted i would sure like to know, i just have this gut feeling that it is so very very few. i think frequently one cat may be positive and the others never tested unless they become ill and wow,,,they are positive,,and yet they may have been positive all their lives but just asymptomatic, Those are the valuable statistics..those are the statistics that cause healthy FELV cats to be PTS ( killed).... most of us here seem to have the experience of no transmission in adult cats, The only way to be sure is if a cat was once negative,,,,,,,,THEN became infected,,,and positive, Kelly -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference.... MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.10/720 - Release Date: 3/12/2007 -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference.... MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.10/720 - Release Date: 3/12/2007
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