At 09:05 AM 6/10/2007, you wrote:
I agree if you are already looking for a cat, but when senior
already has a cat they love and loves them and a serious health
problem develops it may be the choice between death and declaw....
Kelly
There was an 18 year old siamese is a county shelter that I was looking at
last night.. Looking through the list of about 30 cats that they had I noticed
that they also had 2 other siamese as well as all the cats seemed like they
would make great pets...
Then I noticed that about one in four were declawed !!!
If you want a declawed cat there are plenty of great kitties just
dying waiting
to be adopted and already declawed...
Tad
Kelly L wrote:
At 04:56 AM 6/10/2007, you wrote:
I did not even get in to that issue but it is an important one.
Many many elderly persons bleet with a touch as theri skin is so
thin. Mine is like that now and i never heal . I try to wark long
sleeves but I am very scared up. If a person is a diabetic it
is much worse as they infect so easily. they are all choices we
make in this world and i would rather see a kitty declawed than
allowed to live out doors.
Kelly
I have to support Kelly. I will go to any possible lengths to
avoid declawing but there are times it is in both the cat's and
caregiver's best interest. There is laser technology available
that takes most of the pain out of it surgery. I had my mother's
cat declawed because every time she (the cat) even looked at Mom,
Mom bled profusely and it took hours to stop the bleeding. Never
mind the bruises. Kitty did not mean to hurt Mom but just routine
stretching produces nails. Neither she nor the other cat seemed
any worse for the experience and I am very sure that both, if
asked, would have given up the first digits to their "fingers." I
know I would in exchange for a home, food, and all the love imaginable.
Dixie is not declawed and I am praying that the day never comes
when I have to do that. With a compromised immune system
........... well, I just pray. She is wonderful about what she
scratches and I have AC friends who talk to her when she
"forgets." Like most on this list, I have adjusted my taste in
furniture and found that lacey throws on couches and other
upholstered pieces stop a lot of damage. And there is no carpet
in the house (the floors are taking a beating from the constant
running and turning but that is ok). There will be no long,
expensive drapes.
Beliefs are very strong on this issue and I understand how
volatile it is. I'm just throwing in my own thoughts. And the
thought that perhaps we need to ask the cats in question what they
would prefer when death is a serious option.
If you have men
who will exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter
of compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal
likewise with their fellow man.
St. Francis
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Kelly L
To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 11:59 PM
Subject: Re: OT - Phelix...and lessons learned.
At 09:34 PM 6/9/2007, you wrote:
this is where I will disagree. does it hurt for a few weeks. Yes
it does but a good vet gives good pain medication. Are there long
term consequences, That is debatable, A close friend, fellow
rescuer and Feline behaviorist plus RVT has had all 14 of her cats
declawed, In the past when I actually had furniture and a dog that
lost an eye just about I chose to declay the front toes. Yes I
know what is involved,
the cat went on the live a happy and very healthy 15 more years.
Now that I have given up drapes furniture and dogs that live in
close proximity with my cats i would never do it, but I have
adopted out cat to people I knew would, but I also knew what
wonderful cat parents they are.
Braces a cruel and frequently put on our kids for only cosmetic
reasons, we subject our kids to years of discomfort,
I would opt for a declaw rather than to have a cat tossed outside
by one or the other care giver.
and to euthanize a cat instead makes me see red.
Kelly
Beth, it's not my "never declaw ideal" that made me say that, it
is my genuine belief that declawing causes long term physical and
psychological suffering, and I do not think putting a suffering
cat through more things to make it suffer more is a correct
course of action. Two wrongs don't make a right. Declawing is
100% cruel and inhumane, and euthanasia is 100% humane when done
correctly. To me, there is no gray area there, it's black and
white. To eliminate suffering, yes, I will euthanise an animal. I
do not have those strong no-kill ideals others have these days.
My son bites his fingernails until they bleed sometimes... would
I ever THINK to even consider amputating his fingers to solve
that problem? True, it WOULD completely eliminate the problem,
and his self-mutilation, but at what cost? That's how I feel
about it. That's just me, personally. I'd like to see a $1000
fine and mandatory 90 days in jail for felony animal cruelty for
anyone that has a cat declawed - that and the revoking of
veterinary licenses for any vet that does the surgery. But I
admit, I'm totally way on one side of the fence on declawing -
probably to the point of being impractical and even a bit of a lunatic.
Phaewryn
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