They are like people doctors..........there are certain things they have to say/do then, if you corner them/ask them what they would do etc you get another story. They are bound to do/recommend things that, theoretically, are in the best interest of the patient. When asked what they would do and to consider quality of life the answers may be different. I am going thru some of this with my mother and the textbook answers are different from the real life answers.





If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis ----- Original Message ----- From: "wendy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: New to group; Questions


I agree. Throwing things away seems like overkill, plus if they were exposed, it has already happened. I think a lot of times vets say things like to CYA.

:)
Wendy

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----- Original Message ----
From: Susan Dubose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:31:34 PM
Subject: Re: New to group; Questions


I agree, but do what you are commfortable with doing.

Susan J. DuBose  >^..^<
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
                                 "As Cleopatra lay in state,
                                  Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
                                  Purring welcomes of soft applause,
                                  Ever guarding with sharpened claws."
                                            Trajan Tennent




----- Original Message ----- From: "Kelley Saveika" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: New to group; Questions


I would not throw all those things away.  But of course it is up to you.

It seems very silly to me, since Ripley, Sherman, and Boy have all
been living together for..how long?  to at this point start throwing
things away.

On 8/22/07, Angela Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello All!
 This is Ang. You helped me thru a very hard time on Tuesday with the
passing of my kitty, Boy. I just read the message from Melody and I just
wanted to share with everyone that my vet told me yesterday, when I had
Ripley and Sherman to the vet, that clothes should be washed, hardwood
floors should be bleached/scrubbed and all fabric should be washed. Couch
and chair cushions should be washed by hand with hot water and
disinfectant.
I have also learned that food bowls, water bowls and litter boxes should
be
thrown out. They say that the virus can live outside the body for 3 hours,
but I would rather be safe than sorry.

Ang


Susan Dubose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Melody!

First, I want to say thanks so much for wanting to help a felv+cat, people
who decide to bring one knowingly into their lives seem to be few & far
between.

I have 5 now, and I also have many felv- cats, many of those are
chronically
ill w/other ailments or "geriatric".

Meaning, they already have compromised immune systems and I have to be
very
careful not to expose them to felv.

So, I recommend 2 things, not allowing them to "play"under the door w/each
other (good to get a "flap" that can prevent this) and always wash your
hands after handling your felv+ cat.

It is a very delicate virus, so I do not believe you need to change your
clothes after you spend time w/your felv+ cat.

I don't change my clothes, but if I did I would have to do it several
times
per day.

There are others on this list who might advise you to change your clothes,
I
don't know.

Ask your vet for his /her opinion, also.

This brings up another question, are you comfortable w/your vet's
knowledge
of felv......?

Discoveries are being made quite frequently about this disease, so it is
good to have a vet that is well informed and who keeps up w/all the new
medical developments.

I also recommend the standard immune boosters, L-Lysine, for sure, and I
also use a product called "Missing Link",but I get the "Professional
Strength" formula, which is by prescription (vet).

I also sprinkle Nutritional Yeast onto my cats' dry food, which is loaded
w/B vitamins.

These above products are also good for your felv- cats also, it wouldn't
hurt them that's for sure to have some supplements.

I would invest in a high quality dry food, I use Innova Evo mixed
w/Wellness
Core only for my felv+ cats.

My felv- cats get predominantly the above foods, but if I have a coupon or
find a good sale on Nutro, Iams or Blue Buffalo I will mix a bit into
their
food bin to help stretch the kitty budget.

They also like these brands, and they think they are getting a real treat
when I mix them in....... :)

You are correct about "dedicated food bowls", I always run mine through
the
dishwasher, which would kill any germs but my felv+ cats have their own
bowls & dishes regardless.

Bedding should not be shared, either, just to be safe., and my felv+ have
their own litterboxes also. (I use a different "type"of box altogether for
them, that way I know when I see them they are for felv+).

Since my washer / dryer area is in my felv- cats' room, I never "pull" the
laundry from the felv+suite and leave it anywhere my felv- can lay on it,
just to be safe.

It goes directly into the washer, and I use an environmentally friendly
detergent (7th Generation) but I do use bleach.

I hear that 7th Generation also has a bleach product, but I have yet to
find
time to hunt it down...... :)

My cats also have the "Drinkwell" systems, in both areas.

I have 2 fountains that are dedicated to the felv+ alone, and they get
"switched out" every 2 weeks.

I also never clean both areas on the same day, just to be sure I do not
mix
any bowls, beds or Drinkwells.

Does that make sense?

I hope this helps you!

Please let us know how things go and if you have anyone questions!

Thanks!

Susan J. DuBose  >^..^<
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
                                  "As Cleopatra lay in
state,
                                   Faithful Bast at her
side did wait,
                                   Purring welcomes of soft
applause,
                                   Ever guarding with
sharpened claws."
                                             Trajan Tennent




----- Original Message -----
From: Forgotten Souls
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 9:08 PM
Subject: New to group; Questions

Good evening, all!

I'm new to this group, and came here in hopes I could get some
feedback/advice on multicat homes with pos and neg cats. Specifically, I
currently have neg cats, and am looking to assist a FeLeuk kitty. We have
a
nice size home, and have a large spare room that can be easily converted
for
a FeLeuk cat to be isolated from my neg guys. My major concerns really are
what types of precautions will need to be taken to protect the neg cats
from
contracting it, and protecting the pos cat from any issues as well. I have
been doing some extensive reading, and aside from common sense things
(dedicated food dish, litterbox, etc, using bleach solutions to sanitize),
what else should I be aware of to protect the cats from eachother? Pardon
my
questions if they come across as silly, I just want the best for these
guys
and don't want to place any undue harm on anys cats, or commit to
something
I can't do. How long does the virus actually survive in the environment?
Is
there anything I should be doing when going between the FeLeuk room and my
cats to prevent transmission (change clothes, etc)? If any of you have a
set
up like this, can you give me specifics on how you are making it work? How
contagious and easily does the virus actually transmit from an affected
cat?
I think this should cover my barrage of questions for now. Any feedback on
what to do is greatly appreciated. Thanks, everyone!

Melody


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