Thanks Janine,
Tried the cypro...WOW what a MISTAKE!  Mica mewed CONSTANTLY while on it...-no 
exaggeration - with EVERY exhale he'd meow.  Luckily he has a very soft voice, 
but still I thought I was going to go BATTY!  The only time he shut up was when 
he slept...and he had the night terrors even then.  Plus he gained like 7 lbs 
over the course of three months.
I think that's the main reason I'm so worried about mood elevators with him.  
He was on cypro for his asthma.  Now I just give steriods whenever he has a bad 
bout and he has to deal with it otherwise.  I had a BIG fall-out with the one 
vet over taking him off cypro.  It was only when I let her keep him for 10 hrs. 
one day did she "get it".
Tell Whitey he's not alone!  Poor guy.

--- On Mon, 12/7/09, janine paton <> wrote:

From: janine paton <>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT:help w/post traumatic stress in cat?
Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 5:11 PM

Jeepers.  I'm so sorry for this cat!  I have a FIV+ named Whitey who'd been hit 
by a car a few winters ago.  Disappeared for a week, feeders thought he was 
dead.  Long story short, he now lives in my bedroom (only because he doesn't 
play nice with others) but oh boy, does he love us.  Broken jaw and paralysis 
on one side of his face.  Can not open his mouth more than a quarter of an 
inch.  He is physically a little akward, too.  For two years at least, he 
startled awake out of a sound sleep when hearing a loud car or truck.  NOT 
jumping as high as your kitty, and he doesn't have beebees in him, but now he 
is starting to relax more, and sleep through loud motor noises.  

There's a drug called cyproheptadine (maybe used for allergies?) we use 
sometimes to relax just a little, maybe at night would be a good time.   Also 
increases appetite, sort of useful for cancer patients.  Also, Bach flower 
rememdies come in more than rescue rememdy, although rescue rememdy might do 
it.    If you go to a health food store, or online, you can pick out a few to 
use in his water that may fit his issues.   


From: Susan Hoffman <>
To:; Mari <>;
Sent: Mon, December 7, 2009 11:50:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT:help w/post traumatic stress in cat?

If the pheremones don't work then talk to your vet about antianxiety meds, 
either prozac or elavil, at least for awhile till he begins to get over 
whatever is in his past. (I had one cat on prozac for years.  It made all the 
difference in the world.)

--- On Mon, 12/7/09, Barb Moermond <> wrote:

> From: Barb Moermond <>
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT:help w/post traumatic stress in cat?
> To:, "Mari" <>, 
> Date: Monday, December 7, 2009, 8:42 AM
> Tamara,
> I'm forwarding this individually to Mari as I know she has
> experience with this.  She's on the list, but I think
> on digest and I want to make sure she sees this.
>  Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito
> "My cat the clown:  paying no mind to whom he should
> impress.  Merely living his life, doing what pleases
> him, and making me smile." 
> - Anonymous
> ________________________________
> From: tamara stickler <>
> To:
> Sent: Mon, December 7, 2009 10:37:33 AM
> Subject: [Felvtalk] OT:help w/post traumatic stress in
> cat?
> Hello all,
> This is off-topic, and for that I apologize, but I figured
> with all the cat care-giving/rescuing experience of the
> people on this list, perhaps someone would have an answer
> for me.
> I took in stray tabby about 3 years ago.  Had him
> neutered and vetted.  He had/has many issues including
> being prone to kidney crystals and infections -which I think
> we have under control at the moment w/ cranberry powder
> additive to his food.  He used to be very aggressive
> towards other cats (something for which my other cat still
> hasn't completely forgiven him for) and he truly believes
> himself to be a dog.  He has no fear at ALL of people,
> cats or canines, -fetches toys, heels, comes when called and
> will go into his crate if you just mention it...(something
> even my DOG REFUSES to do!).  But..there is one major
> obstacle to completely incorporating him into the household:
> he has night terrors.
> Because of his past aggression, he's separated in his own
> room whenever I'm not home & at night, but I have been
> trying to get to the point where he can be allowed to sleep
> with us.  Unfortunately, he has incredible nightmares
> where he BOLTS INTO THE AIR (we're talking sometimes 2-3
> feet HIGH) from a dead sleep and FLEES until he hits
> something - usually a wall or piece of furniture- hard
> enough to wake him up.  Then he sits all hunched up and
> blinking for a few minutes.  If I go to him he
> immediately starts to purr and rolls over for a belly rub -
> only after head-butting me a few dozen times.
> I've had him to the vet thinking he was having painful
> spasms or something.  All she could find were old
> injuries that looked like a car accident may have hit him in
> the hip area (all healed - he moves fine) and what appear to
> be 3 bebes still lodged in the back of his neck and shoulder
> area.  She doesn't think they would be the cause of
> pain now...but both injuries tell something of the first
> year or two of his life.
> I've tried feline pheromones ...he still has the
> episodes.  
> As much as I hate putting him in a room by himself at
> night, while the cat and dog and I share a bed....when he
> freaks out at night- it sets off a chain reaction of the
> other cat going all hissy-spazzy and the dog barking and
> chasing one or both around the condo until he fully wakes up
> and calms down (I'm surprised my neighbors haven't
> complained yet!).  (Not to mention....I've gotten
> kicked in the eye and face time and again as one or more of
> the animals flee from the shock of Mica's night terrors.
> Has anyone EVER experienced something like this that's
> on-going?
> Does anyone have ANY suggestions other than time? 
> (He's been an indoor only cat for 3 years now....and while
> the dreams do seem to be getting the current
> rate- he'll have to live well into his thirties until they
> are gone...-I'm not certain I could survive that! ;-)
> Thanks,
> Tamara, Tobias (yorkie), Coebeio (calico), Micatullyvhim
> (grey tabby)
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