You know, mine have very rarely needed dental work. I've had many cats and only 1 hyperthyroid, and he's 22 - not adoptable anyhow. Go figure.


On Feb 28, 2011, at 9:10 PM, Susan Hoffman wrote:

When I say senior I'm talking about cats in the 10-15 year age range and it seems they invariably need dental work when they come into rescue. We also always do full blood panels for anyone over 8 years of age. We don't want to risk adopting out a cat who is hyperthyroid or diabetic or in renal failure to someone who just is not prepared to deal with that. Dealing with these things before listing for adoption has made all the difference in the world in finding good homes for cats past 8-10 years of age.

--- On Mon, 2/28/11, Gloria Lane <> wrote:

From: Gloria Lane <>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Money in trust for cats........
To: "" <>
Date: Monday, February 28, 2011, 6:56 PM
We provide the same vet care to all
adult cats regardless of the age. I don't find the seniors
to cost more, but of course most folks don't want to adopt a
pet that has a clearly limited short lifespan.


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On Feb 28, 2011, at 3:54 PM, katskat1 <>

Oh?  Is this a nation-wide requirement or certain
areas? And for
senior animals only? I never heard that in my neck of
the woods and
have rescued and found homes for many dogs and several
cats.  Of
course, they are usually younger and are always fully
vetted before I
take them out for Adoption Days but.....

Dental required?  I have never done dental stuff
for any of my
animals.....I occasionally brush dogs teeth if they
have tartar but
make sure they eat and chew the right stuff so that
isn't a problem.
Cats the same.  Never had an animal that had a
bad tooth needing
extraction and I have had a boat load of
animals.  Am I missing
something?  Where are these requirements in
place?  And just for older

My one senior kitty has a senior blood panel once a
year.  All the
rest who aren't positives have std vaccinations
including for FeLV

This gets more and more difficult when all you want to
do is love them
and let them live out their lives in happiness and


On 2/28/11, Susan Hoffman <>
What makes the $500/$1000 inadequate is that, from
a rescue standpoint,
older animals have to be fully vetted before they
can be listed for
adoption.  That includes dental which is so
expensive.  Adopters are
reluctant to take on older or special needs
animals because they are afraid
of the cost.  Now, if the animals are current
on cleanings and extractions
and have recent senior blood panels then that
makes all the difference.

--- On Mon, 2/28/11, katskat1 <>

From: katskat1 <>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Money in trust for
Date: Monday, February 28, 2011, 1:35 PM
Some great ideas/questions!
Thank you all and keep them coming.

Right now I am on unemployment and will
eventually start
receiving a
small retirement amt each month that will
barely pay the
mortgage and
food so realizing the $500/$1000 was so
totally inadequate
- which I
should have known - was a set back I will have
to deal
with.  I guess
I was thinking it would be a bridge until the
could find
forever homes for them.  That, of course,
leads to
another concern
about how to be sure the care-taker could be
trusted to
find good

Not sure about those on-line fund raising
sites someone
suggested......beg for money?  I don't
think I would
give money to a
stranger on line with no real info as to where
it will
really go so
why would I expect anyone else to do so?

I like the idea of someone moving into house
but who would
that person to make sure the animals are
receiving the care
should? My few remaining relatives live many
states away
and are
within a few years of my age or older. What
happens to the
person/house after the animals alive at the
time of my
death are no
longer living? Maybe as part of the will the
house and
property could
revert to a rescue site?  Yikes!
How to do that
with zoning laws and
all........ And I would have to be sure the
house could be
paid for at
my death........ ARGHHHHHH...

I wish I knew a way to find an attorney I
could trust to be
with these types of situations AND share my
love for these
furry kids.
Maybe listed in the yellow pages under
"Attorneys - Animal
or something?  ;-)  And would be
willing and able
to do it without
charging an arm and a leg.  Sigh.

Sooooooooooooooooo much to think about.

Keep the ideas coming.. And thank you all.


On 2/26/11, Peggy Verdonck <>
I'm so glad my family knows how important
my cats and
other pets are to me!
Most my family members and friends are
huge animal
lovers and I have no
doubt that they will take great care of
mine, if
something would happen to
me and my husband.

2011/2/26 dana giordano <>

I don't know how old the cats are but
(i'm sorry)
the amounts I am seeing
(500/1000) doesn't seem like it would
be enough to
take care of the cats
long other than maybe food needs. I
could be wrong. And maybe
that's all it's intended for.

Natalie that is a fantastic idea!

I wanted to share some potential
solutions just to
put it out there?  Love
that one though. (note: :P)

Has anyone thought of raising funds
via chipin,
maybe through a local
so their donators will get tax
deductions, or
perhaps kickstarter, or
refresh? These are very popular fund
raising sites
nowadays and you can
choose different just
have to hit
the minimum to get the
I think but people can always
contribute more than
requested, especially
you state that in the description of
why you are
looking for funds.

And just fyi - there are actually cat
homes out there - did
anyone know that? Isn't that a smart
idea? Wanted
to put that out there
although they make you pay upfront for
lifetime care of the cats.  I'm
sure they would give you a figure on
the costs if
you ask, and maybe it's
just a good idea to have that number
for a goal.

Also, if there are no no-kill shelters
near you
perhaps you could find
that are sort of nearby and see if
local rescue
groups would be willing to
transport them to that shelter, the
shelter take
them, and get that
info out to family and in the will so
there is a
plan in place and it will
get done.  Also, they may have
ideas on wills
and after-care for animals.
I'm sure they deal with it all the

It's smart to think ahead. Good to see
doing so. I'm fairly young
I think all my kitties will be gone by
I'm 60 (I
have 7.) which was just a
lucky thing, not a well-thought out
thing, so
hopefully I won't have to
with this myself.  If I want
animals after
that I decided I'm only going
foster them because of exactly this
Mostly because I have no
money to even put away what you guys
have! :)

On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 7:24 AM,
Lorrie <>

Hi Kat,  This is exactly what
I have
done so far.  In my will I have
left $1,000 for each of my 14
cats.  It
is the best I can think of to
assure they are cared for.
However, I have no
way of knowing some
unscrupulous person won't take the
money and
dump the cat!!  It's the
big question of WHO will take each
cat, and
how can I be certain they
will be taken care of. We have no
no-kill shelter, and the
humane society in our small town
worthless. They are mainly
concerned with dogs.

My grown kids all adore cats, but
they have a
bunch of their own, so
I know they couldn't take all 14
mome.  It is such a big problem,
but I must get it resolved as time
is running
out.  I have enough
money from a small inheritance to
insure the
care and safety of my
cats, but overseeing this is the

Lorrie in WV

On 02-25, katskat1 wrote:
I too had this concern as I
run a small
rescue as well as having
several cats and dogs of my
In my 60's, live along female.  I
finally talked to a lawyer
arranging my will and found the thing
that makes me feel best.

I allocated a certain lump sum
animal ($500/cat, $1000/dog as I
couldn't afford to set up a
trust altho
am still considering that) in
my will for any and all
animals alive at
the time of my death.  This
money goes to the local no
kill shelter
or humane society to be used
specifically for each animal
with the
sole purpose of allowing it to
live its' full, natural life
in a
healthy and natural manner, adopted
or fostered if possible and
NOT to be
euthanized unless two vets
concur it is a medical

Best I could do but it will
serve the purpose.

Anybody have any ideas on how
I can make
it more air tight?  I don't
know if I would have much more
than that as I don't own much but
I have asked my one sister to
allow it
from life insurance if
necessary and she has agreed.

Good luck..... and NEVER allow
animals to go anywhere you haven't
visited and seen several
times, at
several times of day, unnanounced
if possible.


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