"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way
its animals are treated"

*   Mahatma Gandhi

Yet in a way, I'd hate to think that the innocent animals that are being
abused so terribly all the time, are here merely as reincarnations of
horrible people, having reversed their roles. That our beloved pets, are

Somehow, this whole things puts a big hole in reincarnation, to think that
after thousands of years, reincarnated beings haven't learned anything.




From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:17 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters


Who is it the said you can tell a lot about a society by how people in it
treat animals.  Such disgusting cruelty.  If there is reincarnation, guess
who's going to be the prey in their next life?  Maybe that way, they will
learn a modicum of compassion.and slowly it will change.



From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:36 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters


So do Canada geese (mate for life).  We live on a pond, and they spend a lot
of time here.  We feed them, so they don't go on neighbors' properties,
bothering them.  We actually recognize them every year because of certain
markings, etc.  When one  loses a mate, they stay alone.  I'm not sure if
they ever find another life-mate or not.

I used to go to the Hegins (PA) Pigeon Shoots to protest.  It was sick.
Families having picnics, while their "menfolk" shot at pigeons that had been
confined without food and water in dark little traps for days- they were
released, totally disoriented, in sudden bright sdaylight. They could hardly
fly up, they were so weak.  Then these brave men would take potshots at
them.  Some injured pigeons were able to fly off, land on roofs and fields,
dying a slow death.  Others fell right down, flopping on the ground until
teen boys nonchalantly sauntered over to them, swung them by their necks,
either broke their necks, or ripped their heads off. One kid threw a
decapitated pigeon at me.  We had a tent set up with volunteer veterinarians
and wildlife rehabbers to treat the injured birds or euthanize them

It was like in Roman times, a bunch of degenerate, bored, and blood lusty
people amusing themselves.

Hegins Pigeon Shoot is no more, but there are still others!


From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 12:29 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hunters


doves mate for life...that's what is so sad. another thing that is sad is
people with guns chugging down the booze. No laws to protect anything from

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 10:51 PM, Georgetta Brickey <gebr...@hotmail.com>

Your posts reminded me of something that happened 40+ years ago on our
family farm in Central California... during dove hunting season.
We did not allow hunters on our property, but when dying doves fell in our
fields and pastures after being shot nearby, hunters would climb over our
fences to retrieve the bloody bodies.  One afternoon the shotgun pellets
were raining down on our roof and through the branches of our oak trees and
we were afraid to go outside so Mom called the county sheriff.  When he
arrived to talk to them about unsafe shooting... Mom noticed his hand was
bandaged...an idiot dove hunter had actually shot the deputy in the hand!!!
Go figure!
When I drove my 25 miles to work, each morning I felt like a cardboard duck
in a fair shooting gallery... groups of "hunters" parked on their backsides
sitting on coolers of doveswith umbrellas erected overhead would wait on
both sides of the road for flocks to fly over.  I managed to get to work
unscathed for 5 years, but was never certain I would survive the Sept - Nov.
annual killing season.  Our hunting neighbor across the road went out with a
few friends and came back with only one eye... not a single "friend" would
admit he fired the blinding shot.  Nice, huh?

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Marcia Baronda

Baronda Supplies & Service, Inc.

1550 S 2700 Rd.

Herington, Kansas 67449

Phone: 785-466-2501

Cell:    785-230-6499


" I wish to address ethics as it applies to our companion animals. As a
veterinarian, I am an advocate for the rights of these wonderful beings who
inhabit the earth and our homes, sharing this journey with us. It is my
conviction that these animals,and all plants and animals, domesticated or
wild, have inherent rights that are separate from their ability to benefit
humans. They have the same right to exist as we do."  Don Hamilton DVM


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