First, I would like to offer heartfelt condolences to those who have lost their 
Fur kids. Even when you know it is inevitable, it is always far too soon.

            I have a problem which involves my FeLV boy. I'll try to keep it 
simple. Gribble has been with me for over a year. He lives with 6 other cats. 
When I first found him, he tested - for FeLV/FIV. He has recently tested 
positive (FeLV only) after a health crisis. At the time my Vet felt that there 
was no point in vaccinating the rest of the bunch he lives with, but will test 
as/if needed.

            I also feed some outdoor cats. Last week someone shot one of them. 
Although the attempt was made to save he leg, he is now three-legged. 
Obviously,  he cannot go back outside. While researching the FeLV vaccine I 
came to the conclusion that the PureVax rFeLV would be the best choice. My Vet 
agreed to order it for me, but the practice owner has refused. I can buy a tray 
of 25, but at $459, it will be a stretch. So I'm looking for some wisdom for 
thse of you that have been there. In 30 yrs of rescue, I have never had a cat 
test positive for FeLV before.

            Do I simply put Velvet (the recent amputee) with a different group, 
that have never had any issues? They have all tested negative at one point or 
another, but then, so did Gribble. I'd prefer to have him with my special needs 
group, as they are the most closely supervised. What if I can't access the 
rFeLV? Are any of the other, adjuvanted vaccines going to help? I know they 
will increase FISS/VAS risk.

            So far, Velvet is still caged, but his stitches come out Monday. I 
can take him walk-about in a "safe" part of the house, but then, I guess he has 
to go back to the cage.

            Sigh. Any wisdom would be much appreciated. He's been thru so much 
that I'd really like him to have a good life. While I'd much prefer to keep 
him, for his sake, I have offered him for adoption through my Vet.

Thanks,

Margo and the gang

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>Message: 1
>Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 17:23:22 -0400
>From: Lorrie <felineres...@frontier.com>
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Napoleon lost his battle
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>I am so sorry Beth. I lost a 10 month old young male to FelV yesterday.
>He was the third one of a litter of 4 FelV kittens I took in last June. 
>I still have one, a dilute tortie, and so far she seems fine, but 
>with this terrible disease we never know how long we'll have them.  
>
>Thank you for loving this boy. They are all so precious and losing 
>them never gets easier.....
>
>Lorrie
>
>On 04-16, Beth wrote:
>>    I had an FeLV cat who belonged to a friend. He was her cat, but lived
>>    at my house because I have FeLV cats. He has been battling Stomatitis
>>    the last few months. She picked him up to take him to the vet yesterday
>>    morning. During his exam they felt a mass in his tummy. They put him
>>    under to explore further. He had cancer from his abdomen to his
>>    esophagus. They never woke him back up. He looked & acted so healthy
>>    except for the stomatits. He is very much missed. He was a silly,
>>    sweet, mischievous boy. & I loved him for all of it!
>>     Beth
>>    Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!
>
>
>
>
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>
>Message: 2
>Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 15:01:58 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Beth <create_me_...@yahoo.com>
>To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Napoleon lost his battle
>Message-ID:
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>Sorry about your baby, Lorrie. But you never know. Siblings can succumb at 
>totally different times. I hope you have your tortie for a long time.
>
>
>Beth
>
>?
>Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!?www.Furkids.org
>?
>
>
>________________________________
> From: Lorrie <felineres...@frontier.com>
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:23 PM
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Napoleon lost his battle
> 
>
>I am so sorry Beth. I lost a 10 month old young male to FelV yesterday.
>He was the third one of a litter of 4 FelV kittens I took in last June. 
>I still have one, a dilute tortie, and so far she seems fine, but 
>with this terrible disease we never know how long we'll have them.? 
>
>Thank you for loving this boy. They are all so precious and losing 
>them never gets easier.....
>
>Lorrie
>
>On 04-16, Beth wrote:
>>? ? I had an FeLV cat who belonged to a friend. He was her cat, but lived
>>? ? at my house because I have FeLV cats. He has been battling Stomatitis
>>? ? the last few months. She picked him up to take him to the vet yesterday
>>? ? morning. During his exam they felt a mass in his tummy. They put him
>>? ? under to explore further. He had cancer from his abdomen to his
>>? ? esophagus. They never woke him back up. He looked & acted so healthy
>>? ? except for the stomatits. He is very much missed. He was a silly,
>>? ? sweet, mischievous boy. & I loved him for all of it!
>>? ?  Beth
>>? ? Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!
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>Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 22:42:30 -0500
>From: DeAnna Dockery <deeannn...@aol.com>
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>So sorry for the loss of your precious baby! Praying for your healing heart! 
>Of I may ask, what symptoms did he have
>For stomatitis? 
>
>Sent from my iPhone
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>On Apr 17, 2013, at 5:01 PM, Beth <create_me_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Sorry about your baby, Lorrie. But you never know. Siblings can succumb at 
>> totally different times. I hope you have your tortie for a long time.
>> 
>> Beth
>>  
>> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
>>  
>> 
>> From: Lorrie <felineres...@frontier.com>
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Napoleon lost his battle
>> 
>> I am so sorry Beth. I lost a 10 month old young male to FelV yesterday.
>> He was the third one of a litter of 4 FelV kittens I took in last June. 
>> I still have one, a dilute tortie, and so far she seems fine, but 
>> with this terrible disease we never know how long we'll have them.  
>> 
>> Thank you for loving this boy. They are all so precious and losing 
>> them never gets easier.....
>> 
>> Lorrie
>> 
>> On 04-16, Beth wrote:
>> >    I had an FeLV cat who belonged to a friend. He was her cat, but lived
>> >    at my house because I have FeLV cats. He has been battling Stomatitis
>> >    the last few months. She picked him up to take him to the vet yesterday
>> >    morning. During his exam they felt a mass in his tummy. They put him
>> >    under to explore further. He had cancer from his abdomen to his
>> >    esophagus. They never woke him back up. He looked & acted so healthy
>> >    except for the stomatits. He is very much missed. He was a silly,
>> >    sweet, mischievous boy. & I loved him for all of it!
>> >    Beth
>> >    Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!
>> 
>> 
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>Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 07:38:46 -0400
>From: Lorrie <felineres...@frontier.com>
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Napoleon lost his battle
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>Hi, Not sure if you want the symptoms of my cat, Willie, or Napoleon's
>symptoms since the subject line above is the same.
>
>Anyway,  Two of my FelV kittens died from anemia. Willie had a URI
>which the vet cured with Zithromax, but he never rallied back, and 
>got thinner and weaker.  After two months of hoping he'd finally gain
>weight and get better I took him back to the vet who felt a mass on
>his right kidney.  Operating on a FelV positive, sick, weak kitten 
>was not an option, so he was PTS.
>
>I have had many FelV cats over the years and several died of tumors on
>the spine, which resulted in them losing the use of their back legs. This 
>retrovirus can cause any number of things that eventually kill our babies. 
>Mostly it's been anemia however.
>
>Lorrie
>
>On 04-17, DeAnna Dockery wrote:
>>    So sorry for the loss of your precious baby! Praying for your healing
>>    heart! Of I may ask, what symptoms did he have
>> 
>
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>Message: 5
>Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 05:33:27 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Beth <create_me_...@yahoo.com>
>To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Napoleon lost his battle / stomatitis
>Message-ID:
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>DeAnna -
>
>Napoleon's stomatitis symptoms were red, inflamed gums.
>
>Beth
>
>Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!?www.Furkids.org
>?
>
>
>________________________________
> From: DeAnna Dockery <deeannn...@aol.com>
>To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
>Cc: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
>Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:42 PM
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Napoleon lost his battle
> 
>
>
>So sorry for the loss of your precious baby! Praying for your healing heart! 
>Of I may ask, what symptoms did he have
>For stomatitis??
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On Apr 17, 2013, at 5:01 PM, Beth <create_me_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>Sorry about your baby, Lorrie. But you never know. Siblings can succumb at 
>totally different times. I hope you have your tortie for a long time.
>>
>>
>>
>>Beth
>>
>>?
>>Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!?www.Furkids.org
>>?
>>
>>
>>
>>________________________________
>> From: Lorrie <felineres...@frontier.com>
>>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>>Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:23 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Napoleon lost his battle
>> 
>>
>>I am so sorry Beth. I lost a 10 month old young male to FelV yesterday.
>>He was the third one of a litter of 4 FelV kittens I took in last June. 
>>I still have one, a dilute tortie, and so far she seems fine, but 
>>with this terrible disease we never know how long we'll have them.? 
>>
>>Thank you for loving this boy. They are all so precious and losing 
>>them never gets easier.....
>>
>>Lorrie
>>
>>On 04-16, Beth wrote:
>>>? ? I had an FeLV cat who belonged to a friend. He was her cat, but lived
>>>? ? at my house because I have FeLV cats. He has been battling Stomatitis
>>>? ? the last few months. She picked him up to take him to the vet yesterday
>>>? ? morning. During his exam they felt a mass in his tummy. They put him
>>>? ? under to explore further. He had cancer from his abdomen to his
>>>? ? esophagus. They never woke him back up. He looked & acted so healthy
>>>? ? except for the stomatits. He is very much missed. He was a silly,
>>>? ? sweet, mischievous boy. & I loved him for all of it!
>>>? ?  Beth
>>>? ? Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!
>>
>>
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