Thanks Lee, that's interesting. Hadn't thought about a limited contact scenario before. So sorry to hear about your own negative vaccine experience.
Shelley On Sep 24, 2013, at 5:14 PM, Lee Evans wrote: > To answer if the foster mom has her cats vaccinated, NO. However, Taffy has > her own litter box and own feeding bowl and only mingles with the other cats > for a short time during the day, then back to her room with her pooch friend. > I'm not too keen on vaccines. I have heard nasty things about the FeLv > vaccine, like cats have come down with the disease a few weeks after being > vaccinated and had no other source of being infected. I have also had a > personal experience with a faulty polio vaccination when I was a teen. It > left me with nerve damage which has not improved with age but at least I > wasn't paralyzed, just in pain for a couple of years while my muscles gained > strength with physical therapy. Vaccines are not the perfect answer to > everything. > > > From: Shelley Theye <ve...@bellsouth.net> > To: email@example.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 1:03 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing > > Hi Lee, > > Thanks for explaining. Not sure if there is hope for Leo to still turn > negative. He tested positive last July, when trapped and neutered, and then > again in Nov. I haven't retested yet, and am thinking of doing the IFA too. > Does the woman who has Taffy have all of her other cats vaccinated for FeLV? > > Do most people on this list who mix positive and negatives have their > negatives vaccinated for FeLV? > > Shelley > > > > On Sep 24, 2013, at 1:00 PM, Lee Evans wrote: > > > Hi Shelley - I'm not sure as to when they were exposed. These were cats > > rescued from different places at different times. One, a male who I have > > had not for about 6 to 7 years, was rescued when he was not neutered, > > around age 2, street cat, but tame. Since I was going to get him adopted > > after neutering, I had him tested before I took him into my own house. He > > tested negative for FIV but positive for FeLv. I tested again at another > > vet. Still positive, but that vet suggested that I keep him for two months > > and then re-test. This guy was on top of the latest literature in vet > > medicine. So I did so, took Moses (cats name) back and he had turned > > negative. Not to say that I did not believe the test but too, Moses for yet > > another test and he was again negative. He's still with me. > > > > Bunny (Buns for short) is a female, abandoned at an apartment complex > > (notorious for abandoned, feral and stray cats). She was less than a year > > old when she was brought to me on Easter Morning. Thus her name, Bunny. I > > put her in a separate room, then took to vet to be tested. She tested > > positive for FeLv. Kept her isolated, did not spay, re-tested in about 3 > > months, she tested negative. Tested again to be sure. Negative again so got > > her spayed. > > > > However, my luck did not hold very well. Recently had a rescued kitten > > brought to me. I took Taffy to a local Humane Society in Bulverde Texas. > > They tested her prior to putting her up for adoption. When they tested her, > > she tested positive for FeLv. I took her back, found her a foster home with > > a wonderful foster mom, who kept her isolated for 3 months but Taffy still > > tested positive at the end of the isolation period. Fortunately, Foster mom > > loves her and although Taffy doesn't mix in to the community of 7 cats that > > Foster Mom has, Taffy lives with Foster Mom's dog in a spare bedroom and > > gets to socialize with the cats except during feeding time. Taffy is > > perfectly happy with the arrangement. So is the dog. > > > > The adults probably contracted FeLv during mating behavior. I suspect that > > Taffy got it from her birth mother but was not able to fight off the virus > > as a kitten because she did not have very good care and ended up as a > > little street stray. > > > > > > From: Shelley Theye <ve...@bellsouth.net> > > To: firstname.lastname@example.org > > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:49 AM > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing > > > > Lee, > > > > Can you explain more about the 2 month period for the adults that you have > > that threw off the virus? > > Do you know when they were first exposed, in other words could they have > > had the FeLV virus for more than 2 months > > before they ever were tested? > > > > Shelley > > > > > > > > On Sep 24, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Lee Evans wrote: > > > > > I have had a lot of success with adult cats who threw off the virus in > > > about 2 months and tested negative from then on. For kittens, they may or > > > may not have been actually positive. Since their immune system is not > > > fully developed, they might not throw off the virus as soon as adults. > > > Too bad about the idiot vet who gave the adopters such ridiculously > > > incorrect advice. Keep the kittens for another 4 weeks, then re-test. You > > > really should find them a home with a person who understands that a > > > positive test does not mean the kitten should be killed. If they are > > > still looking and feeling well, let them live. A home with no other cats > > > or with cat-friendly dog is the best for this type of kitten. > > > > > > > > > From: Betheny Laubenthal <bailleyspetc...@gmail.com> > > > To: email@example.com > > > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 7:04 PM > > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question about FeLV/FIV testing > > > > > > What's the earliest that testing using a SNAP test for FeLV/FIV can be > > > done so that it is accurate? I know that if it is done early on, it can > > > be inaccurate. > > > The reason I asked is that we adopted out a 10 week old kitten July 16. > > > We did not test. I don't like testing before 16 weeks. We pulled the > > > kitten and her sister from another state. Mom was in a high kill > > > shelter. She was PTS before we could rescue her. The rest of the litter > > > was PTS. Miles and Journey were the only ones left. > > > Today, the kitten (Miles) tested positive for leukemia and was PTS (the > > > ill informed vet used scare tactics on the owner and made the owner think > > > that her dogs could get it). I was called after the fact. > > > What is proper testing protocol? Vaccination protcol? 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