Oh, Michelle...again, I am so sorry that you have to endure this...I
agree with what has already been said, if he's resting comfortably and
in no obvious pain or discomfort, I'd let him be.  I agree with what one
member mentioned awhile back (I think it was Sally)...animals understand
better than we do that death is very much a part of the cycle of life.
If asked, they much prefer to go on their own as the process of dying
prepares their souls for their next existance (hopefully, there are more
margaritas on the other side...).  :)  But some babies do need our help
from time to time as they are a little unsure of the journey ahead.

For what it's worth, I can tell you about our Leo's passing...his bone
marrow was shot and he only had a matter of a few days left in him...he
became unresponsive one night, just laid in a single spot and couldn't
move.  We were undecided about whether to take him to the emergency vet
or not to help him cross when we asked a neighbor (she used to be a vet
tech) to come see him.  We all agreed that he didn't appear to be in any
obvious pain and was resting comfortably...so we gave him until morning
to see what happened hoping that he would pass peacefully in the night.
Well, the next morning came and he was still with us...I sat next to him
and called his name, and, unbelievably, he looked at me and let out a
little whimper!  Something he hadn't done in 24 hours.

Leo continued to rally for the next few days actually getting up to use
the litter box and take a few sips of water...we were thrilled!  And
then on the third day, he crashed again...he had a vet appointment
anyway so we took him in to see what could be done (if anything at all).
It was getting harder and harder for him to breathe and we knew he
wouldn't make it much longer.  The vet left us to make the agonizing
decision whether to try a transfusion or to help end his suffering...in
that time Leo made the decision for us...he collapsed and I held him
while telling him it was okay...to go on ahead and say "hi" to all of
the others for us.  The whole episode lasted only a few minutes...I
can't say that it was the easiest thing to watch...but I knew that he
was gone well before his body started to shut down.  When it was over, I
couldn't help but feel a weight lifted, knowing that he was no longer in
any pain, knowing that he went on his own, and, just as importantly,
knowing that we did everything that we could...it was just his time.  I
was able to cope with his passing much easier than all of the others
(who were assisted to the other side) because I didn't have that nagging
feeling in the back of my mind that something else could have been done.
I could really focus on the good memories of my sweet little boy.

Just be sure to let Simon know that it's okay to go on ahead...you'll
catch up to him at a later time!  :)

Take care and stay strong...you guys are in my thoughts!

Jen



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Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 2:00 PM
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Subject: Simon


I think that Simon is dying, but I am not sure. Just two hours or so
ago, 
maybe more, he was lying on his back with his legs spread apart getting
belly 
rubs from me and my partner and purring incredibly loudly.  He ate two
bites of 
food.  He got up and laid down on his side and seemed to sleep.  After a
half 
hour or so he got up and moved and looked uncomfortable to me, but still
purred 
when I pet him. So I gave him 50 c of fluids, thinking he might be 
dehydrated.  After the fluids he got up and walked a few steps, then
meowed plaintively 
twice and laid down and was breathing and twice normal speed but
otherwise not 
moving. His breathing slowed to slower than normal after a few seconds
and he 
has just been lying there quietly on his side ever since with his eyes 
closed. I am not sure if he is sleeping. he opened his eyes and looked
at me once, 
then lifted his head and licked his lips as if nauseous. He was due for
a 
reglan so I gave it to him. He then put his head back down and closed
his eyes and 
is still lying still like that, breathing slowly.  he is not panting or 
gasping, his mouth is closed, he is not making any noises. He is not
purring either, 
though, when I pet him.  I do not know if he is asleep or just very
weak. I 
am not sure what happened when I gave him the fluids.  A friend who
called me 
said I should euthanize him.  My partner says not to, that he seems
peaceful 
and may go peacefully on his own, but my partner is also against
euthanasia.  I 
really am not sure what to do. I generally think it is better to go
peacefully 
on one's own than to get a shot, if it is possible. He looks peaceful,
but I 
do not know how he feels.  My partner also says that he turned around so
much 
last night after 8 hours of hiding and looking miserable to suddenly
wanting 
pets and belly rubs and eating some and drinking, that maybe something
just 
happened from the fluids and he will sleep it off and have a little bit
more 
quality time.  Everyone says you just "know" by looking at them what to
do and 
when.  I do not agree, for me at least. I really don't know.  I feel
torn between 
people who think that once the death process starts it is cruel not to 
euthanize because why put them through this, and people who are totally
against 
euthanasia.  I feel like if there were a standard for doing it with
humans I might 
find comfort in that and feel I could know it was time with an animal,
but 
suffering is suffering so if no one would euthanize a human in the stat
that 
simon is in then why is it that people think it is cruel not to
euthanize him? I 
have been laying by his side all day, and all last night, and all
yesterday.  
Some people say that not euthanizing is selfish and is for the human,
but I 
know that I will soon have to mourn him and it is not like it is easier
for me 
to lay here and watch him go through all these little rollercoasters.  I

really do just want to do what is best for him, but just do not know
what that is. Michelle




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