At 11:09 AM +0200 7/02/02, jef chippewa wrote:
>
>but this, the idea of using "mathematical" to learn a 5-let [2+3], 
>and the possibilities of regional and national differences in 
>dialect, intonation and word accent patterns, reminds me of a story 
>a prof at my old university once described to me about how one of 
>his students [thought s/he learned] learned triplets.   in the 
>following, each number syllable has the duration of an 8th note 
>[without triplet values]:
>
>    one-two-three-[8th rest], one-two-three-[8th rest]...


I once played in a new dance performance, where the work was 
choreographed and rehearsed to "counts of eight", or counts of 
whatever worked with the music... or so the choreographer told us! 
When we started to put the orchestra together with the dancers, one 
extended section in 7/4 was not working, as we kept finishing before 
the dancers were finished. After about an hour (I'm not kidding!) of 
wasting everyone's time trying to figure out what was wrong, the 
choreographer, tried beating counts while the orchestra played, and 
this is what he counted:

"ONE, two, three, four, five, six, se-ven, ONE, two, three..." etc.

He had choreographed the whole darn thing in EIGHT, never realizing 
that he was counting "seven" with two syllables! Even if he had used 
eights with accents (as some iron-minded choreographers have been 
know to do) it would have worked out, like

"ONE, two, three, four, five, six, seven, EIGHT, one, two, three, 
four, five, six, SEVEN, eight, one, two, three, four, five, SIX, 
se-ven..." etc.

All the musicians (and even a bunch of the dancers) were slapping 
their foreheads in frustration, as he continued to insist that HE was 
right and the orchestra (and the composer and the conductor and 
everyone who had ever used a seven-beat measure in the past) were all 
WRONG.

Well, I can smile about it today. 8-)

Christopher
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