On 9 Jan 2005 at 19:51, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:

> At 07:08 PM 1/9/05 -0500, David W. Fenton wrote:
> >What do you mean by "all the challenge/response services?" Do you
> >mean 3rd-party services?
> 
> Yes. As soon as I get a new one, I blacklist it.

That's not likely to be of much utility to you as more and more 
people are going to use these services as provided by their ISPs, 
rather than through 3rd-party providers.

> >And if I emailed 
> >someone, I'd whitelist their email address in anticipation of 
> >receiving a reply.
> 
> There's one of the problems. Like many people wearing various hats, I
> have many email-in addresses. The email-in addresses tell me who &
> where it's coming from, but the email out (the one above on this post)
> is always the same.

You're in a definite minority. Indeed, I don't really even understand 
what you mean here.

I maintain various email identies, too, for various roles I have. But 
I utilize the same outgoing email in a response as was used to send 
to. That is, if someone emails me at [EMAIL PROTECTED], I respond with 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] If someone emails me at [EMAIL PROTECTED], I respond 
with [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I *don't* do that, then I end up with the 
rest of an email conversation coming in on the wrong email address.

So, I dont' really understand what you're saying about your own email 
addresses, as it seems self-contradictory on its face of the whole 
concept of maintaining multiple identities -- if all your replies go 
out under one address, why maintain multiple identities in the first 
place?

It seems patently obvious to me:

Current problems with challenge/response systems are mostly due to 
pilot error.

The problems are not inherent in the systems themselves, but in 
people's lack of familiarity (or lack of understanding) of how the 
systems should be used. That will change over time.

-- 
David W. Fenton                        http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
David Fenton Associates                http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

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