Maybe I am on my own here, but quite honestly I couldn't care less about the look of the Finale palettes. I still use the Traditional set, simply because it is the smallest. I hope MM is going to repair all the other bugs before they start yet again to change the look of palettes and spend all that time on new icons.

Johannes

Darcy James Argue wrote:
I generally agree with what Simon said.

I wish Finale would take the palette icons from the "Globe" set (is that Mac only?), which are by far the best-designed palette icons currently available, and make the following changes:

1) Make them all grayscale -- with an option to override that with the item and/or current layer color (i.e., the way the "Traditional" palette works).
2) Remove the chintzy "globe" effect.
3) Tighten the grouping -- make the boxes squares again and pack them closer together, so that the palette is roughly the same size as the "Traditional" set.
4) Improve the current tool highlighting effect so it looks more like the effect used in the palettes in Adobe applications.
5) Add an option to dock the palette in the Mac version. (The Mac version of Microsoft Office actually does an excellent job of letting you dock tool palettes [or "toolbars" as they call them] anywhere you like.)


As you can see, basically I just want them to replace the antiquated, ugly icons in the Traditional set with the much more professional-looking icons in the Globe set, but stripped of the actual "globe" highlight effect.

I actually end up using the Globe icons, despite all its shortcomings (needlessly increased size, etc), because the icons in the traditional set are so ugly, they hurt my eyes. The palettes in Finale have been going steadily downhill ever since they introduced color to them.

Coda really needs to take a look at the interface design for InDesign CS for OS X and just emulate that.

- Darcy
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On 01 Mar 2005, at 10:33 PM, Simon Troup wrote:

I have a particular view on the interface, I'm wondering how much empathy there is out there for the same ideas. I'll just say what I think, feel free to disagree.

Professional applications don't need multiple choices of icons types, or different desktop choices. One simple, well designed set of icons would suffice. The whole rosewood desktop and vellum paper idea borrowed from sibelius is totally unnecessary and just bloats the app. I think it actually 'cheapens' the application. You don't see options like these in Photoshop or ProTools.

The finale interface is just too big, the palettes could be a lot smaller. I'd like to see some effort go into some of the ideas used by Adobe - clickable palettese drawers that zoom back to just tabs on the screen, palettese wells that can hold clusters of paletteses that expand on mouse-over. Docking paletteses. All this would add to screen real estate and make the application more "useable" rather than merely "customisable". If I set up all the current icons on screen they take up a massive amount of space! Customising should be about ergonomics, not style.

I don't know how many of you have used Indesign - I've been using it a lot recently and every time I go back to Finale the whole interface feels ... well ... 1980's!
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