On 12 Jul 2005 at 15:03, Darcy James Argue wrote:

> On 12 Jul 2005, at 12:47 PM, Owain Sutton wrote:
> 
> > Andrew Stiller wrote:
> >>>> Dennis Bathory-Kitsz:
> >>>> I'm looking for consensus from the group before I send a formal
> >>>> takedown notice to their web hosts.
> >>
> >> You'll get no such agreement from me. If copyright  subsists in
> >> these 
> >>  postings, then it should not. Have you all gone nuts?
> >> Andrew Stiller
> >
> > I second Andrew's comment.  Of all the copyright issues to be
> > worried about, this has to rank way down the bottom.  What next,
> > objecting to people remembering what you say in the pub?!
> 
> Thirded.  This is like objecting to internet search engines.  
> Searchable online list archives benefit everyone.

No, it's not like that at all -- it's extremely different. Google 
archives publicly available content.

This archiving of posts to this list would be like somebody archiving 
content on my website that:

1. has no links from any other website and is not linked from 
anywhere on my own website

2. has not been sent to Google explicitly requesting that it be 
archived.

The definition of public is that it can be reached without someone 
else's permission. The content of this list was previously accessible 
only to person's who had the permission of the listowner (and his 
software agent, the listserv software).

Now it's available to anyone.

> If you're *that* concerned about copyright, then don't post here.

That's the best argument I've seen for taking down the 
Opensubscriber.com archive -- you've basically boiled it down to a 
choice between retaining control of your words and participating in 
discussions in this forum.

That's a pretty sad choice.

And it's especially sad considering that the republication is being 
done by someone who has no association whatsoever with this forum and 
its interests.

-- 
David W. Fenton                        http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
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