On 12 Jul 2005 at 14:43, dhbailey wrote:

> Johannes Gebauer wrote:
> 
> > dhbailey schrieb:
> > 
> >> Those external archives aren't going to listen to any of us, unless
> >> we back it up with a lawsuit which has monetary and punitive
> >> damages attached.
> > 
> > Ah, now I am getting interested. How much do you think would be in
> > it for me? Couple of thousand? Millions? I may be pursuaded to be
> > very concerned about my copyrights.
> > 
> > Johannes
> > 
> > Note: This Email is copyrighted. It may not be redistributed by
> > anyone without written permission of the author. © 2005 by Johannes
> > Gebauer, Berlin, Germany. All rights reserved.
> 
> Did you give express written permission for SHSU to redistribute your
> message?  how about all those servers it passed through from your
> computer to SHSU and then back out to all of us who receive the list?

By sending it to the listserv address he's given permission for 
redistribution to the list's subscribers, since that's the only 
purpose for sending the message to that address.

> Then how about permission for us to quote the message -- I don't see
> any written permission for me to do that.  Please don't sue me -- my 2
> pfennigs are in the mail, honest!  :-)

He's saying he's reserving his rights. If you're in doubt whether you 
can quote him, ask him first.

I think it's pretty much an implicit right to quote, as long as you 
maintain the attributions, since that's part of the flow and the 
culture of mailing lists. And you could almost certainly claim the 
fair use (fair dealing in Canada and the UK) exception even if 
Johannes decided to be an ass and deny you the right to quote his 
posts.

-- 
David W. Fenton                        http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
David Fenton Associates                http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc
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