Yes, that is absolutely correct.  The technicians are not conjurers or 
magicians.  If they cannot reproduce it, how can they correct the problem?

Again, this is just to give perspective, not to argue whether someone's claim 
is valid or not.  If a bug in Finale actually lost work, that's serious.  What 
the non-developer should know is that in Windows and prob'ly in Mac operating 
systems, they use common system modules for processes that are shared by 
different end user applications.

For example, there is one module (Mac OS or Windows OS) that adds, deletes and 
catalogs files on your disk.  Each application developer is given protocols to 
call these modules and parameters to pass specific data to them, but the OS 
module actually does the work.  As for functions such as playback, in the 
windows world, the application uses a wrapper but the actual work of sending 
the playback through the correct buffers/ports etc. is performed by Quicktime 
or Windows Media player or whatever product is registered to handle files of 
that type.  

This is why it is difficult to determine if the problem is Finale or the OS or 
perhaps if you have some other background process running, it could also cause 
problems as well.  This is especially true when the OS' in either system appear 
to "hang".  It's usually a conflict in these background processes trying to get 
to the same resource and ending up in a deadly embrace.  

For example, many many many years ago (~1989) I had a Mac Plus running MOTU 
Composer and Performer.  I also had a modem connected.  When I sequenced 
through Performer to my Kurzweil and someone called on that line everything 
would hang and I would have to re-boot.  Was it MOTU's fault ?  I really don't 
know 'cause I never pursued that path to resolve the problem.  I merely 
disconnected the modem everytime I was doing anything with Composer or 
Performer.  

This is not a defense of MM Finale, it very well could be their problem.  But 
knowing how to recreate the problem and what other things are happening at the 
time the problem occurs could help Mac or Finale Techs fix the problem for you 
and averyone else.

Richard

> 
> From: Noel Stoutenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/10/18 Tue PM 06:04:22 EDT
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Finale] Scary bug!
> 
> Friends:
> 
> Reading Chuck's comment, I can't figure out how from
> 
> >  they have not encountered this and  cannot reproduce it
> 
> Chuck predicates
> 
> > (and are therefor unconcerned about fixing it -  they can't find it)
> 
> 
> Seems reasonable enough to me, no matter how much one wants to find a 
> problem, if one cannot do so, one cannot address it. 
> 
> This raises in my mind, exactly what those who make bug reports include 
> in those reports.  I'd guess the chances that a bug report is going to 
> be taken seriously improves the more information one includes: and that 
> it would be helpful to MacSupport or WinSupport, besides knowing what 
> platform one is running, also to know how much memory is available, what 
> notation files are open, and what other processes might be running, and 
> what utilities might be running, and it would probably be helpful to 
> have include with the bug report a copy of any notation files being 
> edited when the problem was found. 
> 
> ns
> 
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