On 3 Feb 2006 at 14:41, Arkady wrote:

> Dear Finale List, 
> 
> Can anyone point me to a good explanation on this topic, preferably
> with a few web links: 
> 
> Si Do vs Ti Do? 
> 
> I grew up with Si, and never heard of Ti unTil:) I got to NYC from
> Ukraine. Ever since, I never "accepted" Ti, but it seems like Julie
> Andrews has won:)... 
> 
> But, jokes aside, am I to assume that there was no Ti in this world,
> unTil:) they needed a rhyme in The Sound of Music?!

As far as I know, that's not the reason for it.

> And, if Ti existed before The Sound of Music, how and why was it
> invented?

If you use movable Do solfege with chromatic alterations, where Fa# 
is Fi, then Sol# would be Si, and thus there's a single syllable 
being used for both #5 and the leading tone. Thus, the leading tone 
is rendered as Ti instead of the French/European Si.

My experience is that those who don't use chromatic alterations to 
the syllables are either using fixed Do, and/or are trained in a 
European tradition, and those who use them are more likely to be 
American-trained.

So, I do see "Ti" as an Americanism.

And the above was the explanation I was given at Oberlin during my 
first semester of ear training/sight singing, and it was the way 
sight singing was taught at Oberlin at that time (movable Do with 
Ti).



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