Eric Dannewitz wrote:
Yes, and I'm sure every orchestra maintains lists for first call Accordian players, and other instruments NOT regularly in the Orchestra.

You reinforced my point. Saxophone is not a regular part of an Orchestra. Wind Ensemble/Orchestra, yes, but a traditional Orchestra, no.

dhbailey wrote:
Except when they're programming works which call for saxophone, and then you can be there's saxophones in the London Symphony Orchestra. Every orchestra maintains lists of first-call players for instruments which they choose not to maintain a regular seat for.

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Do you mean to tell me that every instrument included in GPO is a regular member of a standard orchestra? I don't think so.

Most orchestras do no have a regular contrabassoon player, a regular english horn player, a bass clarinet player, tuba player, harpsichord, marimba, glockenspiel (oh yeah, baby, that's in all those Mozart and Haydn and Beethoven symphonies!), to say nothing about harp -- every orchestra uses at least one of those at every concert -- Not!

There are lots of instruments in GPO which are either doubled occasionally (such as english horn or contrabassoon or bass clarinet, which is the same as happens with saxophone (I have a friend who plays clarinet predominantly who doubles on saxophone when it's called for or for which orchestras maintain lists of first call players to hire as additional members when the score calls for it, such as tuba, harpsichord, marimba, glockenspiel, harp.

Your logic falls apart -- the exclusion of saxophones isn't for the reason that they're not regular members of an orchestra, not if all those other instruments I've listed are included in GPO. The saxes may be missing because they weren't ready in time, they may be missing because Gary simply felt like it wasn't important to include them (why include glockenspiel, though? That's a band instrument if ever I've seen one), but the fact is that they are missing and anybody who wishes to score a work which uses strings AND saxophones and who wishes to use GPO (either the Finale edition or the full version) has to buy two separate products.

And that is a fact whether Gary Garritan is a wonderful person (I have no reason to doubt Chuck's assessment) or is a toad (I have no reason to think this).

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