A Glockenspiel was used in Mozart's Die Zauberflote. But I'm sure Mozart was looking forward and knew it would be just a BAND instrument. Last time I saw the San Francisco Symphony they had a Harp but no saxophones. Funny.......according to you they use them......not! One of the ladies I play with in a local symphony has a son in the National Symphony Orchestra, and they, once in a blue moon, will have saxophones for a piece. More of a band piece than an Orchestra piece. But what does he know. He's only been in the Orchestra for, oh, almost 20 years........

But yeah, you seem to know everything. Yeah.........mmhmm.......

Saxophone is a band instrument. Or a Wind ensemble instrument. It's not a part of a traditional Orchestra, and I believe that is what GPO was aiming for. Perhaps there should have been a Garritan Personal Band instead of Garritan Personal Orchestra?

dhbailey wrote:
Do you mean to tell me that every instrument included in GPO is a regular member of a standard orchestra? I don't think so.

Most orchestras do no have a regular contrabassoon player, a regular english horn player, a bass clarinet player, tuba player, harpsichord, marimba, glockenspiel (oh yeah, baby, that's in all those Mozart and Haydn and Beethoven symphonies!), to say nothing about harp -- every orchestra uses at least one of those at every concert -- Not!

There are lots of instruments in GPO which are either doubled occasionally (such as english horn or contrabassoon or bass clarinet, which is the same as happens with saxophone (I have a friend who plays clarinet predominantly who doubles on saxophone when it's called for or for which orchestras maintain lists of first call players to hire as additional members when the score calls for it, such as tuba, harpsichord, marimba, glockenspiel, harp.

Your logic falls apart -- the exclusion of saxophones isn't for the reason that they're not regular members of an orchestra, not if all those other instruments I've listed are included in GPO. The saxes may be missing because they weren't ready in time, they may be missing because Gary simply felt like it wasn't important to include them (why include glockenspiel, though? That's a band instrument if ever I've seen one), but the fact is that they are missing and anybody who wishes to score a work which uses strings AND saxophones and who wishes to use GPO (either the Finale edition or the full version) has to buy two separate products.

And that is a fact whether Gary Garritan is a wonderful person (I have no reason to doubt Chuck's assessment) or is a toad (I have no reason to think this).


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