On Jan 3, 2007, at 9:00 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:

Dear Mike,

Here's an example of a pretty specific part - lots of detail. They are not all this complex.

<http://homepage.mac.com/cisraels/filechute/Perhaps%20-%20Drums.pdf>

I hope this is helpful.

Chuck

On Jan 3, 2007, at 4:31 PM, Mike Greensill wrote:

Dear Chuck/Bob

Would you be willing to share with us just a snippit of one of your drum parts. So that we can "see" your methods. I don't quite understand the "slashes in layer 1 and cues in layer 3" part. Do you put the slashes, as usual in the middle of the stave to indicate time, and the cues when needed above the staff?

How do you deal with long stretches of just playing? I produce multimeasure rests in the part, make them blank with staff styles, then use the expression tool to write in the staff "PLAY 8" etc. just as if I was doing the part by hand. Is there an easier way?

I never got Mike's original message. I wonder why not?

Mike, you seem to be asking about procedures in Finale. Use the Slash Notation staff style (for pete's sake don't enter all the slashes as expressions or anything so drastic and time-consuming!), which changes everything in Layer 1 to stemless slashes. You can even apply this to partial measures if you need to. If you got my previous message a few minutes ago, I explained why you have to edit the staff style to show items in other layers. Once this is done in your default file, you will never have to do it again (until you change default files!)

As a rule, I try to let the drummer have every measure notated, as in Chuck's example. It might seem wasteful when there are long passages of just playing time, but if you number elapsed measures (there is a plugin for this!) and take care with the layout to have phrases starting systems it is very easy to read. It also allows the drummer to write in his own cues if needed in the middle of a phrase. You know, when you decide that you REALLY want him to catch that trombone hit in bar 6, but all he has written is "Play 16 bars" so he has no place to write it, it really slows things down.

Chuck, I notice you have changed the stem attachments on X heads so that the stem is in the middle of the X instead of the 1:30 or 7:30 position. This seems unnecessary to me, but everything else about the part is very nice and clear. I especially like the 3D enclosures (Bill Duncan's!) that make important info pop out.

Christopher


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