On 27-Sep-07, at 4:29 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:

Christopher Smith / 07.9.27 / 3:24 PM wrote:

How are you putting in the text?

Yeah, I missed that crucial info to post.  Sorry about that.  I _want
to_ use Lyric Tool because that is the quickest I can run on this.

Hmm, yeah, you don't have the ability to superscript individual characters in the Lyric tool. The items are there in the Text menu, but greyed out.

May I suggest just the same that you use the Expression Tool? It has so much more flexibility, and it doesn't add in lyric extensions and re-align the word when the following note doesn't have an analysis, as if it were a lyric starting a melisma. The Autopositioning really helps, as does Metatool assignment.

BTW, you didn't ask, but it is much more conventional to put the
Roman analysis BELOW the staff. That's where most theory guys put it,
and expect to see it, at any rate.

I know that is the standard but I never liked it.  The roman numeral
should be close to the chord names.  To me, it doesn't make sense to
have chord symbols above the stuff and roman numeral bellow the stuff.
Besides I need clear space for note numbers bellow the stuff.

I know there is no set method for indicating chord members, aside from Berklee's method but, in most of the educational literature I see (like Ted Pease's excellent book, Jazz Composition, Theory and Practice) the chord members in melodies are noted like articulations, close to the notehead opposite the stem. This still leaves plenty of room for chord symbols above the staff and Roman numerals below, which ARE in the standard position in that book. When Pease spells chords, he puts the chord member numbers BESIDE each note of the chord, which is very clear as well.

Careful when you mess with established practice, especially when it is among the few conventions that are respected between classical and jazz theory. You have to think of what the students are going to do with this afterwards, and are they going to have re-learn EVERY convention they were taught when they go on to another school.

Speaking of convention, Hiro, I know you went through the whole Boston scene and I have a question about analysis over there. When showing a descending-perfect-fifth resolution of a dominant, an upward curving arrow from the dominant to the resolution is standard practice. Do the schools you learned and taught at allow the arrow when it is a resolution of a diminished chord up a semitone, like C#dim7 to Dm7 in the key of C? In my classical training, we were told to call those "inc. V7(b9)/II" or incomplete V7(b9) of two, since they have all the same important functional notes as A7(b9). I would consider that to be a tonicisation, and thus arrowable, but I don't think the standard analysis allows the arrow except for actual dominant chord resolutions. I would LOVE to be able to put arrows on all those diminished chords in my jazz theory classes! But I fear that the students would be marked wrong if they did it at their next school, so I haven't been doing that.

What do you think? (And anyone else who would care to weigh in!)

Christopher



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