Adam Golding wrote:
Eric,

I have used both Sibelius and Finale.  Sibelius is currently faster for me,
but I know it somewhat better than Finale---further practice on finale might
make it faster for me, on the other hand, further practice might be futile.

I agree that each program will produce different creative results if one
composes directly into it, so I should clarify that I'm probalby going to
start composing in Cubase and doing a score when the composition is said and
done, so I'm specifically wondering about engraving speed.


For the kind of work that Adam appears to be doing, I would say that Sibelius would be the better choice.

I work in both, although I'm not as fluent in Sibelius as I am in Finale. I find that I can work equally fast in either program, but the more recent developments in Finale have made it a less desirable working environment for me (having used it since version 3.5) while recent developments in Sibelius make it a lot more enjoyable working environment for me.

Adam, you need to know, however, that there remain certain things which are easier in each program. Such as having independent key signatures like 2/4 and 6/8 at the same time in different staves -- Finale makes it very easy and Sibelius makes the user jump through hoops. But if you don't work on music like that it won't matter. And it is possible in Sibelius, just not as easily as with Finale.

Both programs are really equal -- those who prefer one or the other do so for either of two reasons: 1) the program they like fits their working methods better; 2) the program they favor makes the musical work they do easier than the other program does.

Engraving speed is really determined by the type of music you will be doing.

For a large number of people in your situation Sibelius is easier from the start and remains easier. The real differences show up with more complex scores, with the advantage going to Finale, but increasingly by a narrower margin with each new release.

Then there is the corporate future -- Sibelius is making huge advances in capturing the education market at all levels, enticing teachers to install it in school computer music labs, while Finale seems to have all but abandoned that market. Which means that young students are learning Sibelius and are more likely to remain Sibelius users, broadening the marketplace significantly, while Finale seems to make no apparent effort to broaden its user base. What that means is that Finale's future income is limited to corporate engraving and to current users locked into an annual upgrade "subscription" model, and increasingly more and more current users are reluctant to upgrade because newer Finale versions have introduced significant new problems while failing to fix some long-standing problems.

Sibelius on the other hand appears to release new versions only when they're ready and not due to any pre-determined calendar model. In my opinion, Sibelius' future seems rosier than Finale's future. MakeMusic, who own and market Finale, have their business hopes pegged onto their SmartMusic Accompaniment System, which is specifically aimed at the student market and is based solely on annual subscription fees for access to the accompaniment files. Finale appears to be less significant in corporate vision.

Sibelius (the company as well as the product) has been purchased by Avid, which owns M-Audio and other major music technology products, so it appears that it will have a more robust future.

Only time will tell, but when making a significant investment in a software product it is important to keep the company's long-term continued health into consideration. Users of both programs likely have many files from abandoned notation programs of the past which they can't get at.

A word to the wise -- when completing a project in whichever program you finally go with, save it as MusicXML in addition to the native format, which may well be the key to the future access to the pieces without having to completely re-engrave in whatever notation software we're all using 20 years from now. Finale will allow that now with no extra purchase, to do that in Sibelius you will need to purchase the Dolet plug-in from www.recordare.com.

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David H. Bailey
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