I may be one of the more patient people - tolerant of a few glitches in Finale, but I am still uncomfortable with the new staff lists and can't quite figure out how they work. For instance, pre 2009 one could simply check "top Staff" and the expression would show up on the top staff of the score and each part. Now (unless I'm missing some essential bit of information) one must check each individual part to get the expression to show. There are things not to like about the new expression implementation. I am hoping for improvements and simplification in 2010.

Chuck


On Mar 16, 2009, at 3:59 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:

Speaking of safety, if you have an expression assigned using Staff Lists (like rehearsal letters or tempo markings) then you delete measures before the bar with the expression, the expression disappears in all the linked parts except the one at the top of the score. I lost all my rehearsal letters and tempo changes for several files like this and had to delete them from the score and reassign them. Big drag.

It is also possible to copy measures from another document created before linked parts (pre 2007), intending dynamics and instructions to stay attached to the instrument whose part you are copying, and to have some OTHER expression show up on some other totally unrelated staff, but only in the linked part. This has to do with how Finale translates staff lists from old files. Fortunately, the unwanted expressions all show up in the Misc. category, so you can track them down there and delete them.

Christopher


On Mar 16, 2009, at 5:34 PM, Barbara Touburg wrote:

Just to let you know:

I'm involved in a slow conversation with Matt K. (I don't know his last name), one of the people at the "helpdesk" at Makemusic. Discussing the current limitations of the expression assignment lists (nowadays called staff lists), he asked (sounding a little surprised):

There are 8 staff lists - can you give me an example of where you would use a 9th? I would be happy to provide the example to our developers.

and I responded with:

I suppose you don't read the SHSU mailing list?
I posted a message comparing the staff assignment list with a colour pencil box - removing certain colours from it just because some people just don't know how to use their colours right. I *do* know how to use the assignment lists. I use them kind of like style sheets in DTP programs. I design them very methodically. For example (and I've said this already on the SHSU list): in an orchestral piece I create a list for all wood instruments, one for all brass instruments, one for the strings, etcetera. When the composer wishes to add an instrument to one of the groups, I add it to the appropriate list, to ensure myself that it too gets all the markings the others in the group already have. To restrict this tool is to restrict *me*. I use it for safety, and you have taken that away. I'm definitively *not* happy, and I'll be going back to version 2008 and staying there as soon as I have finished this Mendelssohn project.
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