On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Steven Larsen <[email protected]> wrote:

4. Richard Wagner and Richard Strauss are the principal composers to
> promulgate the advancement of the horn (Brahms preferred the sound of the
> natural horn),


I asked a knowledgeable horn-playing friend about your later question (which
composers started writing for F horn all the time), and he promised me a
copy if an interesting article on Brahms horn writing, so I should have more
to add.  I'll just say that I have been told that, even though Brahms wrote
parts that were playable on natural horn, he probably never heard tham
played on natural horn in his lifetime.  He also wrote a book of etudes for
valved horn!



> and it's interesting to track the changes in horn use and
> notation in their works. Strauss' ...
>


> Strauss began to almost always favor Horn in F, but often called for
> changes
> to other keys in the course of the work. The best summary of this confusing
> practice is in Strauss' own words (or at least as translated by Theodore
> Front for Strauss' revision of Berlioz' "Treatise on Instrumentation",
> written in 1904 and reprinted by Kalmus in 1948):
>
> "Although horn players now use almost exclusively the horns in D, F, high A
> and high B flat . . . it is nevertheless advisable to retain Richard
> Wagner's method of indicating the key of the horns according to the changes
> of key in the music. It is true that horn players do not observe these
> different keys any more; but they are accustomed to transpose any key
> instantly into the key of the horn they are using, and they much prefer
> this
> method to being forced to read all the time the horn in F, ..." (p. 279)
>
> At some point in the 20th century, most composers settled on the
> now-standard Horn in F and stopped the practice of "changing horns" in the
> parts. Exactly when that happened? I'm sure somebody out there has written
> a
> dissertation on it!
>
> Steve Larsen
>

OK, here's mine:

My horn-player friend said Mahler settled on F horn after writing for horns
in keys early, but a quick look through all the Mahler horn parts on
IMSLP.org found nothing but F horn, so I'm not sure what the early writing
would be.   Bruckner wrote parts in different keys in some of the
symphonies, but some have F horn only.  Early Schoenberg and Stravinsky both
were F horn only.   Not Dvorak - he wrote in keys just as Brahms, [Dvorak
6th = Horn 1, 2 (in D, F, E), 3, 4 (in E, Bb, D)]  if more chromatically.

I was curious about J. Strauss Jr., since he might have been more in the
public trenches - my friend didn't mention him but all the parts on IMSLP
(not that many) are F horn.  Perhaps the waltz king gets the award for
helping establish the principle of writing for the F horn specifically, and
going against the (written later) advice of Richard Strauss?  (Perhaps more
than ten minutes of research would be needed for this conclusion?)

Raymond Horton

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