On Nov 25, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote:

> Hi Jef,
> 
> It's usually all up-stems in this kind of notation, and the stem extension 
> length (below the notehead) tends to be about an octave.

Darcy,

Up?  Down?  I'm confused.  I think I have seen notation somewhat like what I 
think you are describing used for guitar, where the melody (mostly, and 
conveniently, above the staff, since the guitar is written an octave higher 
than it sounds) is written with long down-stems that are split vertically in 
order that a chord symbol can be shown below the note in that split space.  
This to indicate "chord-melody" style without writing out voicings.  I have 
seen this in hand written charts, not in Finale.  Writing guitar music this way 
is either an avoidance of having to think through fingering possibilities in 
order to choose one's own voicings and voice leading, or respect for the 
guitarist, who may come up with something better than you do anyway: 
Composer/Arrangers choice.

Is this the kind of thing we are talking about?  Is there a convention for this 
of which I am unaware?  I can think of circumstances in which it might be 
useful.

Happy Thanksgiving to all.

Chuck





> But there's no reason why the stem extensions couldn't be a uniform length -- 
> you'd just have to make sure the lowest note of all of the chords falls on 
> the same line or space before applying the plugin.
> 
> As Jari says it's not uncommon in jazz/B'way circles. I don't have any need 
> of it but it is in use. It doesn't have a standardized name but "topline 
> notation" is as good as any -- I'm not sure I've heard that specific term 
> before but I recognized instantly what he was talking about.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> - DJA
> -----
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> 
> On 25 Nov 2010, at 11:31 AM, SN jef chippewa wrote:
> 
>> 
>> where does the downward stem extend to?  if the stems extend all a uniform 
>> length (octave for ex.)  i would find that incredibly ugly. but extended to 
>> a common line on the staff or position below the staff could be a better 
>> looking design... i realize this is for notation i am unfamiliar with that 
>> may have its own established standards, but there is my view on it 8-)
>> 
>> got a few examples you could show us?
>> 
>> 
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