Got it. Makes sense, if the stems don't create too much clutter. Seems as if what I described might be OK too, but perhaps harder to accomplish in Finale, and it does have the problem of staff lines interfering with the chord symbols. Then I start imagining opaque enclosures around each chord symbol and things get overly complicated. What you (and Jari) are talking about would be useful in some situations, for sure. Thanks, Darcy.
On Nov 25, 2010, at 1:07 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: > Hi Chuck, > > Imagine a stem-up note where the stem *also* extends about an octave below > the notehead -- in other words, imagine a stems-up octave, with the lower > note hidden. > > Chord symbols are usually written above the note in this case but otherwise > it's as you describe. > > Cheers, > > - DJA > ----- > WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org > > On 25 Nov 2010, at 3:49 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: > >> >> On Nov 25, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: >> >>> Hi Jef, >>> >>> It's usually all up-stems in this kind of notation, and the stem extension >>> length (below the notehead) tends to be about an octave. >> >> Darcy, >> >> Up? Down? I'm confused. I think I have seen notation somewhat like what I >> think you are describing used for guitar, where the melody (mostly, and >> conveniently, above the staff, since the guitar is written an octave higher >> than it sounds) is written with long down-stems that are split vertically in >> order that a chord symbol can be shown below the note in that split space. >> This to indicate "chord-melody" style without writing out voicings. I have >> seen this in hand written charts, not in Finale. Writing guitar music this >> way is either an avoidance of having to think through fingering >> possibilities in order to choose one's own voicings and voice leading, or >> respect for the guitarist, who may come up with something better than you do >> anyway: Composer/Arrangers choice. >> >> Is this the kind of thing we are talking about? Is there a convention for >> this of which I am unaware? I can think of circumstances in which it might >> be useful. >> >> Happy Thanksgiving to all. >> >> Chuck >> >> >> >> >> >>> But there's no reason why the stem extensions couldn't be a uniform length >>> -- you'd just have to make sure the lowest note of all of the chords falls >>> on the same line or space before applying the plugin. >>> >>> As Jari says it's not uncommon in jazz/B'way circles. I don't have any need >>> of it but it is in use. It doesn't have a standardized name but "topline >>> notation" is as good as any -- I'm not sure I've heard that specific term >>> before but I recognized instantly what he was talking about. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> - DJA >>> ----- >>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org >>> >>> On 25 Nov 2010, at 11:31 AM, SN jef chippewa wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> where does the downward stem extend to? if the stems extend all a uniform >>>> length (octave for ex.) i would find that incredibly ugly. but extended >>>> to a common line on the staff or position below the staff could be a >>>> better looking design... i realize this is for notation i am unfamiliar >>>> with that may have its own established standards, but there is my view on >>>> it 8-) >>>> >>>> got a few examples you could show us? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Finale mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Finale mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> Chuck Israels >> 1310 NW Naito Parkway #807 >> Portland, OR 97209-3162 >> phone: (503) 926-7952 >> cell phone: (360) 201-3434 >> www.chuckisraels.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Finale mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 1310 NW Naito Parkway #807 Portland, OR 97209-3162 phone: (503) 926-7952 cell phone: (360) 201-3434 www.chuckisraels.com _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [email protected] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
