Hi Chuck,

Imagine a stem-up note where the stem *also* extends about an octave below the 
notehead -- in other words, imagine a stems-up octave, with the lower note 
hidden.

Chord symbols are usually written above the note in this case but otherwise 
it's as you describe.

Cheers,

- DJA
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On 25 Nov 2010, at 3:49 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:

> 
> On Nov 25, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
> 
>> Hi Jef,
>> 
>> It's usually all up-stems in this kind of notation, and the stem extension 
>> length (below the notehead) tends to be about an octave.
> 
> Darcy,
> 
> Up?  Down?  I'm confused.  I think I have seen notation somewhat like what I 
> think you are describing used for guitar, where the melody (mostly, and 
> conveniently, above the staff, since the guitar is written an octave higher 
> than it sounds) is written with long down-stems that are split vertically in 
> order that a chord symbol can be shown below the note in that split space.  
> This to indicate "chord-melody" style without writing out voicings.  I have 
> seen this in hand written charts, not in Finale.  Writing guitar music this 
> way is either an avoidance of having to think through fingering possibilities 
> in order to choose one's own voicings and voice leading, or respect for the 
> guitarist, who may come up with something better than you do anyway: 
> Composer/Arrangers choice.
> 
> Is this the kind of thing we are talking about?  Is there a convention for 
> this of which I am unaware?  I can think of circumstances in which it might 
> be useful.
> 
> Happy Thanksgiving to all.
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> But there's no reason why the stem extensions couldn't be a uniform length 
>> -- you'd just have to make sure the lowest note of all of the chords falls 
>> on the same line or space before applying the plugin.
>> 
>> As Jari says it's not uncommon in jazz/B'way circles. I don't have any need 
>> of it but it is in use. It doesn't have a standardized name but "topline 
>> notation" is as good as any -- I'm not sure I've heard that specific term 
>> before but I recognized instantly what he was talking about.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> - DJA
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>> 
>> On 25 Nov 2010, at 11:31 AM, SN jef chippewa wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> where does the downward stem extend to?  if the stems extend all a uniform 
>>> length (octave for ex.)  i would find that incredibly ugly. but extended to 
>>> a common line on the staff or position below the staff could be a better 
>>> looking design... i realize this is for notation i am unfamiliar with that 
>>> may have its own established standards, but there is my view on it 8-)
>>> 
>>> got a few examples you could show us?
>>> 
>>> 
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