Here's one. open a new file using the Setup Wizard. Add Bb clarinet.
Switch to Display in Concert Pitch. Enter in the staff quarter notes (using Speedy) Eb, Db, Cb (you will have to flip this one with the 9 key, which is what causes the problem. If you DON'T flip it, the problem does not appear.) then Bb. I use Default spelling. My attached document called Test accidentals.mus shows it. Using the Staff Tool, change the transposition to Chromatic, and then turn off Display in Concert Pitch. Now go into the measure and try to force an accidental. I can get a natural on the F (concert Eb), but strangely, as I do so, a natural appears on the C as well, even though I didn't touch it yet, and ONLY WHILE THE FRAME IS open. When I close the frame the natural on the C disappears, but the spacing acts as if there WAS still a natural there. Going in and out of the frame causes some cautionaries to appear, then disappear when I exit. Now no matter what I do, I can't get the C to force appearance of a natural. Apparently, depending on when I flip the B to Cb and what the rhythm in the measure is, some note may end up not being able to take an accidental. The procedure I described reveals the bug every time, even after a restart. The way around it is to enter the C as a natural, then hit the - key to lower it. This means I don't hear the correct pitch, and every accidental costs me an extra keystroke. To re-pitch a note, I have to do same thing; I can't just hit the 9 key because that might cause problems. I'm checking the Cautionary Accidentals Plugin one right now, but apparently they have either corrected the Respell problem or I am not invoking it the way I did before. I'll get back to you (or Darcy will. Like I said, he does this more than I do, so he should be up on it more.) Christopher On Sat Jan 1, at SaturdayJan 1 10:03 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: > You'll have to give me chapter and verse (provided the concert key of the > piece is C maj) because I don't think you are right. In my experience > Chromatic Transposition does not have any bugs that cause required > accidentals either to be omitted or incorrect. > > On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Christopher Smith < > christopher.sm...@videotron.ca> wrote: > >> No, Finale doesn't handle accidentals correctly on parts using Chromatic >> Transposition, especially if you have flipped accidentals with the 9 key in >> Speedy or run the Cautionary Accidentals plugin or try to Respell notes on a >> chromatically-transposed part. For those three I can give you chapter and >> verse on how to make those bugs show their ugly faces. Darcy probably knows >> more, which is why I asked him. >> >> Christopher >> >> >> On Sat Jan 1, at SaturdayJan 1 7:55 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: >> >>> Finale correctly handles all accidentals if you use Chromatic >> Transposition, >>> provided the piece as a whole does not have a key signature. If the piece >> as >>> a whole does have a key signature, you should not be using Chromatic >>> Transposition. There is a better way in that case. >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Christopher Smith < >>> christopher.sm...@videotron.ca> wrote: >>> >>>> Darcy, >>>> >>>> You sent me a summary of the issues with accidentals when using >> Chromatic >>>> Transposition once a while ago, and I regret to say that I have >> misplaced >>>> it. For me (and so that I can check if it is still the case and thus >> harass >>>> MakeMusic about it) could you summarise again? Go ahead and send it to >> the >>>> list, because everyone should know this. I found a few issues, but I >> know >>>> you do most of your own pieces without key signatures, so you must know >> them >>>> all. >>>> >>>> Thanks, and have a great coming year! >>>> >>>> Christopher >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
