Re: [Finale] Playback in transposed scores while entering notes

[John Howell]

My feeling has always been that people who insist on Concert Pitch 
scores are for the most part pianists, while those who are more 
comfortable with transposed scores are instrumentalists who have been 
player and/or writing for transposing instruments for a long time and 
prefer to "see" the tone quality as they write.  Or have been reading 
and studying orchestral scores since before junior high school, as I 
did.

There's no need to disparage either one.  Each has its advantages, 
and each has its disadvantages, like a lot of things in life.  I'm 
finding it more intuitive to do my entry in concert pitch, but I 
always toggle to transposed score so I can "see" the actual sounds.

John




At 10:07 PM +0000 1/7/11, Steve Parker wrote:
It makes much more sense for me to work with a transposed score.
If I input a C into an alto sax part I should hear an A in the 
correct octave as I input.
Anything else is a bug.

Steve P.

On 7 Jan 2011, at 20:02, Patrick Sheehan wrote:

Working with a C score is like none other.  Transposed scores screw up my
eye's ear.  I always work in C scores.  I suggest you give it a try.  This
way you can see exactly where each instrumental line is being played in real
pitch.

Patrick J. M. Sheehan
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P. S. Music
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-----Original Message-----
From: Darcy James Argue [mailto:djar...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 9:38 PM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Playback in transposed scores while entering notes

Hi David,

There is no software solution. The solution for me has been to become
accustomed to doing all my note entry in concert pitch, then flipping to
transposed pitch for everything else.

Cheers,

- DJA
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On 3 Jan 2011, at 3:36 PM, David Froom wrote:

Hello all,

I have a question related to the discussion about transposed scores
(scores with or without key signatures, but where instruments are notated as
the players see them, so if Bb clarinet has a written C, it sounds as Bb).

I routinely write and think in transposed scores, and write music without
key signatures.  So, I use the chromatic transposition setting in the staff
setting, as many have been discussing.  It looks right and it plays back
right.  No issues.  If I'm copying something that has key signatures, I let
the setup wizard take care of it, and once again, it looks and plays back
fine.

But ... here is what really bothers me.  As I'm entering the notes in
speedy, Finale plays them for me in "C."  For example, I'm writing a piece
right now for alto saxophone.  If I want to write a C, which sounds as an
Eb, I play the C on my midi keyboard, and I hear a C as I'm entering the
note.  If I exit speedy and play back, I hear the Eb.  This is annoying,
especially while editing and changing things directly in Finale, to hear the
"untransposed" note while entering it.  It also slows me down, as I have to
transpose twice (from what I hear and play to what I want to hear, and then
from what I see to what I want to hear).

Does anyone know if this is fixable?  I want to hear what the player will
produce, not only during playback, but as I'm entering the pitch.  
Is there
a setting for that?

Thanks,

David
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