The answer seems simple enough - make it an option.

I've used Finale for 14 years, and it still drives me nuts.  I entered some
notes wrong today because of it.

Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
Composer, Arranger


On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Darcy James Argue <[email protected]>wrote:

> I understand wanting what you want as an option, but the default
> functionality is absolutely not a bug. Holding down a C on a MIDI keyboard
> that generates its own sound causes that device to sound a C. Having Finale
> also sound an A simultaneously is going to be very confusing for most users.
>
> This feature is something only advanced users (and I suspect, users who
> spent years writing out transposed scores by hand) would understand and
> want. I use transposed scores as well, but would never want the behavior you
> suggest, and that may be a function of me having never really used pencil
> and paper much (I've been using Finale since I was 19).
>
> I believe in Sibelius this feature is an option, but it is turned off by
> default.
>
> Cheers,
>
> - DJA
> -----
> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
>
>
>
> On 7 Jan 2011, at 5:07 PM, Steve Parker wrote:
>
> > It makes much more sense for me to work with a transposed score.
> > If I input a C into an alto sax part I should hear an A in the correct
> octave as I input.
> > Anything else is a bug.
> >
> > Steve P.
> >
> > On 7 Jan 2011, at 20:02, Patrick Sheehan wrote:
> >
> >> Working with a C score is like none other.  Transposed scores screw up
> my
> >> eye's ear.  I always work in C scores.  I suggest you give it a try.
>  This
> >> way you can see exactly where each instrumental line is being played in
> real
> >> pitch.
> >>
> >> Patrick J. M. Sheehan
> >> Music Director, Instructor: Woodlawn Arts Academy
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> >>
> >> [email protected]
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Darcy James Argue [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 9:38 PM
> >> To: [email protected]
> >> Subject: Re: [Finale] Playback in transposed scores while entering notes
> >>
> >> Hi David,
> >>
> >> There is no software solution. The solution for me has been to become
> >> accustomed to doing all my note entry in concert pitch, then flipping to
> >> transposed pitch for everything else.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >>
> >> - DJA
> >> -----
> >> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 3 Jan 2011, at 3:36 PM, David Froom wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello all,
> >>>
> >>> I have a question related to the discussion about transposed scores
> >> (scores with or without key signatures, but where instruments are
> notated as
> >> the players see them, so if Bb clarinet has a written C, it sounds as
> Bb).
> >>>
> >>> I routinely write and think in transposed scores, and write music
> without
> >> key signatures.  So, I use the chromatic transposition setting in the
> staff
> >> setting, as many have been discussing.  It looks right and it plays back
> >> right.  No issues.  If I'm copying something that has key signatures, I
> let
> >> the setup wizard take care of it, and once again, it looks and plays
> back
> >> fine.
> >>>
> >>> But ... here is what really bothers me.  As I'm entering the notes in
> >> speedy, Finale plays them for me in "C."  For example, I'm writing a
> piece
> >> right now for alto saxophone.  If I want to write a C, which sounds as
> an
> >> Eb, I play the C on my midi keyboard, and I hear a C as I'm entering the
> >> note.  If I exit speedy and play back, I hear the Eb.  This is annoying,
> >> especially while editing and changing things directly in Finale, to hear
> the
> >> "untransposed" note while entering it.  It also slows me down, as I have
> to
> >> transpose twice (from what I hear and play to what I want to hear, and
> then
> >> from what I see to what I want to hear).
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone know if this is fixable?  I want to hear what the player
> will
> >> produce, not only during playback, but as I'm entering the pitch.  Is
> there
> >> a setting for that?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> David
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