They're professionals, they do what they have to to get the right note out. I 
can deal with the pencil marks, but I am bemused that they find them necessary. 
The freelancers have no problems; it's a couple of older tenured guys who play 
95% pre-20th century repertoire that complain, and they mostly sub out for the 
pops concerts that I arrange for.

I pick my battles, as I am not TRYING to put up barriers, but I'm not pandering 
either. You know what a pain it can be to deal with only 4 instruments in a 
score that don't use key signatures while everyone else does. I can't copy 
music in or out of those staves, I have to set key signatures separately 
(that's one operation for the entire score, then one more operation for EACH 
non-key staff), and I have check each and every accidental because of the buggy 
way Finale deals with non-key-signature staves. For a project due last week, I 
had a week to do three pieces for full pops orchestra with 6 singers and rhythm 
section, of which one was an 500 measure, 18-tune medley with modulations. If I 
had to work with all the horns staves as non-key-signature, it would have 
prevented me from meeting the deadline, most likely.

Christopher


On Sat Jun 9, at SaturdayJun 9 6:16 PM, Robert Patterson wrote:

> About the key sigs, I guess I am confused. Are you saying you would rather
> them play the wrong notes than pencil in the accis? Because that's your
> choice given one rehearsal (which is how many most of my gigs with key sigs
> have).
> 
> On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Christopher Smith <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, because horn players still regularly play the repertoire where that
>> terrible convention was used, and might assume that the composer meant it
>> that way.
>> 
>> Heck, I get complaints from horn players who play mostly Classical
>> repertoire because I write with key signatures! Sheesh, get with it, guys,
>> I say to them. I get the parts back with EVERY alteration pencilled in.
>> 
>> Christopher
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat Jun 9, at SaturdayJun 9 4:34 PM, Paul Hayden wrote:
>> 
>>> How many years has it been since any composer wrote a horn part in the
>> bass clef intending it to sound up a fourth? I still write a note about how
>> "the horn part sounds down a fifth regardless of clef". But do you think
>> this is _really_ necessary in 2012?
>>> 
>>> Paul Hayden
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Magnolia Music Press
>>> <www.paulhayden.com>
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