Hi Michael,

I'm answering partly off-list (I'll send you a fuller message off-list).

I am very sorry that this is distressing, but you're very much in the right 
here.

These days the recommended rate for 'simple' work is $15 per page, separately
for score and parts. 'Simple' is 6-8 lines per page -- four piano lines, two
choral lines, etc. If you charge per page, then it's per page, no matter what,
even if a part is nothing more than a copy with page turns. You bring
expertise to the legibility and usefulness of the part, and in a way it
compensates for the lower price on the score.

Anything more complicated is normally charged by the hour, including arranging
and transcription. To this you bring a differeny set of skills; just because
they happen to mesh with you does not mean they are a given and included in
the existing work. If you an engraver only, you would charge that price; a
separate person who transcribed and arranged would get full rate. You are the
equivalent of TWO people, two skill sets, two jobs. Don't undercharge.

So hold your ground on this -- and raise your rates. Then offer a discount for
'packaged' skills. They get an apparent break, you never suffer a loss of
income from it.

Dennis



On Wed, July 4, 2012 7:41 am, delius...@aol.com wrote:
> Dear Finale List,
>
> This has always been a point of a big question mark with me, but I wanted
> to get some ideas of pricing structures, even gross, ballpark ones from what
>  seems to be in the market today.  I recently had a deal go very badly
> where  I created over 100 pages of documents and now the client is balking at
> the  price.  I have always charged by the page, which I have always also said,
>  "per part, per score".  I have charged the same price for part and score,
> and I have said that I will even do revisions after payment until the
> client is  completely satisfied.  What happened is the client suddenly viewed
> this,  after the fact, as I was charging, "twice per line".  I said I had to
> do
>  revisions and editing to all the parts, and that it wasn't just a
> magically  created part (or unedited, for that matter), so time and care for
> page
> turns,  adjusting of dynamics, etc. must be accounted for in some way.  As far
> as I  saw it, my price per page was so low that this was the only way I
> could make any  money.
>
> In the case of this project, I was also doing arranging and not just
> transcription, which I had never charged differently for, so I came up with a
> higher rate, but kept the "per part, per score" clause.  On top of this, as  a
> lot of these arrangements were meant to go with piano parts that already
> existed, I not only didn't put the piano parts into the arrangement or the
> score, but the client "benefited" since it didn't cause the score to go a
> bunch  of extra pages.  I had to write in a piano part for one particular
> piece
>  due to transposition, and I was apologetic about it.  Now the client is
> saying that the scores, which were primarily for rehearsal purposes, only,
> are  simply ways to charge them twice.  I should also throw in that this was
> after the client kept adding more and more pieces to arrange and then kept
> checking in, saying that the music wasn't being produced fast enough.  I
> was sending it as it was going, all parts and scores, and pages could have
> been  counted; then I suddenly get an email asking why I hadn't said the price
> would  be so high.  This has all been very distressing.
>
> I will come out and say it; for over 100 pages of music, scores and parts,
> the total for everything came out to a little less than $1500, calculated
> on  $10/page for transcription and $15/page for arranging.  I have been doing
>  this professionally for more than ten years; I really would like to know
> your  thoughts, either privately or publicly as you wish.  I took three weeks
> of  my time working into the night on many occasions to meet this deadline,
> for so  little money, really, and now the client has my music but doesn't
> want to pay;  to make matters worse, I have known the client as a close
> friend and associate  for over ten years, and this may well terminate our
> friendship.  Am I being  unreasonable?  I haven't moved my rates since I
> began,
> because I haven't  even known how to do so.
>


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