Hi Chuck, Wasn't intending to use jargon! "Font glyph" is just the name for what's inside each character slot in a font. In a text font, a glyph would be a letter or a number. In a graphic font, like Bill's Hairpins font, each glyph is a hairpin (or hairpin pair, or similar).
That's why the line thickness (and width) of the BD hairpins can't be changed -- the line thickness is baked into the font itself. (You could theoretically increase the line thickness by increasing the font size... but that would increase the length and opening width as well.) As far as I know, at least, the BD hairpins are not able to stretch and contract. They are all fixed sizes. If you want a different size, you have to select a different character, right? Or are there resizable versions somewhere that I'm not aware of? Cheers, - DJA ----- WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 13 Aug 2012, at 9:56 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: > > On Aug 13, 2012, at 6:43 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: > >> Hi Chuck, >> >> The Duncan hairpins are font glyphs so their thickness isn't adjustable. > > That is jargon with which I'm unfamiliar, but I have been unsuccessful in > trying to figure out how to change the line thickness. That they are not > really smart shapes explains what I instinctively realized. If I understand > what you mean by font glyphs - that means that they are graphic shapes > grafted onto invisible smart shapes that control how they stretch and > contract, but you can't change them otherwise without access to the grafted > shapes. > >> Also, as you know, another consequence of them being font glyphs is that the >> lengths are fixed as well, > > Yes, I do know that - and it is another usefulness limitation. > >> so I'm not sure they'd work well for Jef's situation if he needs them to be >> rhythmically precise in both score and parts. The measure widths and beat >> spacing between score and parts would have to be identical > > Pretty impractical. I get it. I wasn't helpful and should probably hold my > tongue (fingers) when I don't understand all the conditions. > > Nevertheless, good to hear from you about something that doesn't involve > chaos on your system. > > Chuck > > > > >> -- either that or he'd need to use a separate set of expressions for both >> score and parts, at which point I'm not sure he'd be coming out ahead vs. >> just using smart shapes. >> >> Cheers, >> >> - DJA >> ----- >> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org >> >> >> >> On 13 Aug 2012, at 8:48 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: >> >>> jef, >>> >>> The Bill Duncan material has hairpin pairs in a variety of sizes (including >>> some with notations like "poco" inside them). They work pretty well, >>> although they are defined with finer lines than I use with my normal >>> hairpins (and I don't know how to get in to Bill's to adjust the line >>> thickness - does anyone know?). Whether this is worth it for what you are >>> doing, I can't be sure, but you might want to take a look. I assume Nick >>> Carter has examples on his site. If not, I can send you some. >>> >>> Chuck >>> >>> >>> On Aug 13, 2012, at 5:27 PM, SN jef chippewa wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> rhythmic subdivisions and length of de/cresc. swell changes every >>>> quarter, so this doesn't work for about 90% of the region, otherwise, >>>> yeah, that would be the solution. in case you're curious :-) : >>>> http://newmusicnotation.com/TEMPFILES/hairpin_hellpassage.pdf >>>> >>>> >>>>> Adjust once and copy them to other locations? >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Finale mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>> >>> Chuck Israels >>> 8831 SE 12th Ave. >>> Portland, OR 97202-7097 >>> >>> land line: (503) 954-2107 >>> cell phone: (360) 201-3434 >>> >>> <www.chuckisraels.com> >>> <www.chuckisraelsjazz.com> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Finale mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Finale mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > Chuck Israels > 8831 SE 12th Ave. > Portland, OR 97202-7097 > > land line: (503) 954-2107 > cell phone: (360) 201-3434 > > <www.chuckisraels.com> > <www.chuckisraelsjazz.com> > > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [email protected] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
