>How are you dealing with hairpin ends when they >change to a sharp point at certain length and >subsequently become longer when working in tight >situations? This has been an issue for me since >2007 I believe.
since 2006 (F2007) it has been necessary to live with **significant** compromise in the SC if you actually want to use linked parts in a project (in the way they are meant). i prepare the SC so that the PTs will look awesome; the conductor (1 person) will inevitably be more flexible with the compromises than the orchestral musician (82 people on my current project). i know, total bullshit. and extremely deplorable that finale has let this go on and seems not to be taking its userbase seriously for so long. but hey, maybe we will get a T-shirt -- or better still, bring back the FinaleĀ® water bottle, yeah! -- with the next release (if we agree to give makemusic our money before the product is even ready for release), then i will *totally* be able to live with the inadequecies of the insufficiently implemented features for another (apparently no longer annual) upgrade cycle. because banal and trite little "gifts" are the valium that help me forget all about the frustrations of working with a product i pay for that is not fully functional... as i understand (sibelius users, please confirm), the smart shapes in sibelius are "attached" to a rhythmic point but start/endpoints are positioned at an "absolute" distance, so collisions are avoided in the PTs when they are set right in the SC. finale start/endpoints are proportionally positioned. just stupid. dumb. ok, you made an error, it happens... but fer fuck sakes, fix it!!!! -- ok rant over (for now). check out the following document. can you feel the pain? http://newmusicnotation.com/TEMPFILES/lamento_120816-140150.pdf note the spacing is wide because the measure/systems are as in the manuscript for proofing (in the real layout it is tighter). but here are some of the "tricks" i use: - excessive space between some dynamics and the hairpins in SC - dynamics placed outside the hairpins (last page and m840) - dynamics positioned 30-50 EVPU too far right so that at least the endpoint of the preceding hairpin will work in most cases the last one is maybe the second best trick i use. the best thing in my workflow to deal with the endpoints problem is perhaps selective music spacing while editing. i apply music spacing to the instrumental sections i am currently working on only (e.g. only to a single page and only to the violas while setting the hairpins for the violas) and adjusting the measure widths so that the measure widths are minimized close to how they will be in the individual parts. this way the hairpins are positioned / adjusted only once and function in 80% of the cases in the PTs. _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [email protected] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
