My experience is that bassoonists, trombonists, cellists, and pretty much all non-violists under the age of 40 detest C clefs. In new music, at least, amongst younger players there is a very strong preference for ledger lines above the staff (up to 4) or, for extended extreme high-register passages, treble clef.
Cheers, - DJA ----- WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Apr 13, 2014, at 12:48 PM, Raymond Horton <[email protected]> wrote: > Some bass players detest tenor clef. I have seen reviews in a bass > journal that said something like 'the much-feared tenor clef' > appearing in a piece that was being reviewed. > > > Raymond Horton > Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra > Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC > Composer, Arranger > VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com > > > On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Chuck Israels <[email protected]> wrote: >> I see treble clef more often than tenor clef for high notes in bass parts. >> At least that has been my experience in recent years. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Apr 13, 2014, at 2:46 AM, Jan Angermüller <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Darcy, >>> >>> use a mid-measure clef and then assign >>> a playback expression to the first note in the new clef >>> that sets transposition to whatever you need (0, -12, 12). >>> Repeat the same when switching back to bass clef. >>> >>> But do you really need to change the transposition ? >>> In standard contrabass notation the treble clef >>> is also read as 8vb, just like the bass clef. >>> So if you assign a standard bass clef (without 8vb) >>> and a standard treble clef (without 8vb) and set the >>> transposition settings in score manager to "Down octave". >>> Everything should be clear for the bass player and >>> you don't need any manual transposition changes. >>> >>> Using an 8vb bass clef and a treble clef without 8vb, >>> but that playsback as 8vb, seems inconsistent to me >>> and also not clear for the bass player. >>> >>> And last but not least, treble clefs rarely appear in >>> contrabass notation. Usually the tenor clef is used >>> for high notes. Only the highest flageoletts or >>> Bottesini style arpeggios are usually written in treble clef. >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> Jan >>> >>> Am 13.04.2014 08:08, schrieb Darcy James Argue: >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I'm working with a score in concert pitch, where the contrabasses are >>>> notated with the 8vb bass clef in the score, but a regular bass clef (as >>>> usual) in the part. This is all fine and well and easy to set up in the >>>> Score Manger (with a transposition and Set To Clef). >>>> >>>> The problem arises when you need to change clefs to an 8vb treble clef in >>>> the score, showing as a regular treble clef in the part, and this clef >>>> change occurs mid-measure. In Finale 2011 in older, you could simply apply >>>> a staff style with the same transposition but Set To Clef assigned to >>>> treble clef -- but Fin2012 and 2014 won't allow you to apply a transposing >>>> staff style to a partial measure. >>>> >>>> Given that, what is the best workaround? There is one I can think of >>>> involving clefs as expressions but I'd prefer to avoid going down that >>>> rabbit hole if I can avoid it. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> - DJA >>>> ----- >>>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Finale mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >>>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Finale mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>> >>> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >>> [email protected] >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Finale mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: >> [email protected] > > > _______________________________________________ > Finale mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: > [email protected] > _______________________________________________ Finale mailing list [email protected] https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale To unsubscribe from finale send a message to: [email protected]
