Here is a demo video of what my Perfect Layout plugin does to create 
niente hairpins in Finale.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNYfVVNnYgw

Any niente "o" symbol is recognized as the full music font database is 
included with support of more than 400 music fonts (and text fonts of 
course).
The symbol is then visually connected to the hairpin.
Also the hairpins and dynamics are automatically vertically and 
horizontally optimized.
The plugin is called with its default settings and performs all 
optimizations tasks listed in https://elbsound.studio/perfect_layout.php .
It will be available when the JW Lua plugin engine has received at least 
one more update from Jari.

Jan Angermueller
https://elbsound.studio

Am 13.11.2016 um 19:51 schrieb Robert Patterson:
> I've found shapes generally to be more reliable since Fin14, but you are
> right that independent time sigs are a problem. (Especially jumping between
> mus and musx.)
>
> But either way it doesn't really address OP's issue. Whether you could
> include the "niente" symbol or not, you'd still have these issues.
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 12:00 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz <
> bath...@maltedmedia.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, November 13, 2016 10:20 am, Robert Patterson wrote:
>>>> I wish that, once overruled by hand-adjustment, it would no
>>> longer search for the nearest beat.
>>>
>>> Try Preferences->Edit->Anchor Indicator Lines...
>>
>> That only changes the rubber bands. I mean the *shape* won't hold its
>> position
>> or refuses to move as requested. It prefers to go to a beat position. This
>> only happens in unusual time signatures or independent time signatures. But
>> it's a real bear because there are times when the hairpin simply can't be
>> positioned *at all* on a given staff -- it's always overruled.
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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