Greg wrote:
Am I'm I reading this correctly: XFree86 and xDarwin are separate installs?
They're all variants on XFree86 (they're all based on the XFree86 code).
And what about xDarwin 4.3? Is this a purchase only version? I can't find the download anywhere. Does the earlier version have any special needs (or draws backs) in order to run in 10.2 (like Developer Tools)?
XDarwin.org seems to be a group of people making money off of the real work being done by the XonX people (http://xonx.sf.net/). Now, it's not illegal to make money off of it, but the XDarwin folks sure go out of their way to make it look like they're the ones making it, so I'd stay away on principle. :P Please note I'm saying this as a regular guy, not in any official Fink capacity. :)
Anyways, the summary goes like this:
XDarwin.org: XFree86 4.3.0 (repackaged?) XDarwin.org's packages are just a redistribution of XFree86 4.3 from XonX.
Install system-xfree86 after installing this.
xonx.sf.net: XFree86 4.3.0 XonX is the sourceforge project officially managing the darwin-specific bits for XFree86 (mostly the work of Torrey Lyons).
Install either:
"xfree86" from Fink unstable, or
the installer package from the web site + system-xfree86Note that these official XFree86 binaries are also available in a command-line shell script installer version from XFree86's FTP site. There's really no reason to go this way, but it works perfectly fine installing with those packages rather than the Apple installer on the XonX web site. You would still use system-xfree86 when you're done.
Apple X11: XFree86 4.2.1
Apple's X11 is based on XFree86 4.2.1 with some modifications. A number of the modifications overlap with the changes in XFree86 4.3.0, and a number don't. The net sum is that they're both about equal as far as performance, the only difference is Apple's X11 has quartz-wm and XFree86 4.3.0 doesn't (and Apple X11 has a couple of strange keyboard bugs right now, hopefully the next beta will clean that up). Supposedly, they will eventually merge the XFree86 4.3 codebase with their work, which may make it the best of all, performance-wise, but for now it's about on par with 4.3.0.
Install system-xfree86 after installing this (system-xfree86 4.2-11 is the version that understands the latest Apple X11 beta).
Fink stable XFree86: XFree86 4.2.1.1
These are packages of the previous XonX release, split into two halves (the libraries and the X11 display server). It's older but very solid. It comes in 2 variants, threaded and non-threaded. The threaded build is a bit of a hack, but is required by a few packages (xine being the most popular, I think). If you don't require threading, however, I would suggest not using it. Otherwise if you switch to Apple's X11 (which doesn't support threading), you wouldn't be able to run binaries you compiled against the threaded versions.
Install either:
xfree86-base and xfree86-rootless, or
xfree86-base-threaded and xfree86-rootless-threaded<I guess what I'm asking for is a list of what needs to be installed, and in what order, so I can get back to running GNOME and KDE in 10.2>
There is no one list. You can install any of the X11 variants and things should work OK for you. My suggestion is either Apple X11 (with system-xfree86) or XFree86 4.3.0 (the "xfree86" package in unstable) if you're willing to deal with possibly-more-unstable code, although in practice they're both fairly solid for day-to-day work.
If you want rock-solid stability at the expense of speed, xfree86-base + xfree86-rootless is the way to go.
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