On 22/08/2006, at 2:15 AM, Martin Costabel wrote: > Clytie Siddall wrote: > [] >> Please don't assume everyone is looking for someone else to do >> their work for them. Quite a few people are doing the most they can. > > I apologize if you feel offended, this was not my intention.
I do realize you get a lot of the "do it for me" type of mail. It can be frustrating. I'm always amazed at how much of a project's mailing list traffic is disagreements on how things should be done, and how little is things actually being done. ;) Let's start again. You're here to help, and I'm here to learn how fink fits in with the rest of my system. (That's what is confusing me.) :) > What I tried to explain jokingly is that making a lot of software > that comes from different sources work together is a highly non- > trivial task, and Fink tries its best to help with this. It has > been, in fact, invented just for this. So it provides the tools, > but it needs a sufficiently clean environment to work. There are already other package-managers working in OSX: OSX's software update, the whole application-bundle system, and DarwinPorts (which I haven't been able to use). I am a little curious about how they work together. > > A basic package like gettext is particularly delicate to update, > because it is used by very many programs, and if you make an error > in the update procedure, you risk that a lot of your programs won't > work any more. Ouch. :( > > Even just moving your gettext-0.15 from /usr/local/ to /usr/local/ > gettext/ as Ben suggested may break many things, including Fink > packages that you built while gettext-0.15 was installed in /usr/ > local/. Also, there are so many files belonging to gettext. I don't think one _could_ move it manually, unless one knew each and every one, and how they relate together. That is beyond me now. > > Doing this right, and coping with the problems that arise from such > an update, is as complicated as making a new version of a Fink > package, where the latter has the advantage that you will know > exactly what you have done. I am sure the gettext developers will package the new version for fink as soon as they can. But I need the new version now. I tested part of it (msgmerge), which was actually upgraded to meet situations I encounter. Is there a way I can manually install the new gettext in /sw/bin? Would manually installing in fink's preferred location in general avoid these conflicts? > > Concerning the configure error > >> checking for msgfmt... no > > you can perhaps find more information in the config.log file that > sits beside the configure script that gave this message (somewhere > in /sw/src/fink.build/poxml-*-*/poxml-*). In config.log, look for a > line that looks like that error message and then see what comes > after it. Strangely enough, there is no poxml* directory in sw/src/ fink.build/ . Only glibc and lynx-ssl dirs., parts of previous unsuccessful installs of poxml. The lynx config.log mentions gettext in several places. I've uploaded the entire config.log, rather than quote more here [1]. The config.log for glibc also mentions gettext in several places, but it specifically contains the error I mentioned: > configure:7183: result: yes > configure:7223: checking for msgfmt > configure:7253: result: no > configure:7708: error: > *** You must have either have gettext support in your C library, or > use the > *** GNU gettext library. (http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/ > gettext.html It doesn't explain further, as far as I can see, but I've also uploaded this log [2]. I'm happy to install the latest gettext in another location, if I can be pointed to information on how to do that. I know I can reinstall the older version in /sw, using fink (although I'm not sure how I would do that, since fink still thinks I have it), but I really need the new version. Thankyou for your help. :) from Clytie (vi-VN, Vietnamese free-software translation team / nhóm Việt hóa phần mềm tự do) http://groups-beta.google.com/group/vi-VN [1] http://www.riverland.net.au/~clytie/lynx-ssl_config.txt [2] http://www.riverland.net.au/~clytie/glibc_config.txt ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ Fink-beginners mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-beginners
