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It will be a lot easier to help you out if in the future you file one
report per issue rather than a big rambling paragraph.

On 4/10/11 9:20 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
> Gents:
> 
> I'm your basic GUI guy trying to get som emore life out of my older
> computer, just beginning to try to use Fink running 10.4.11 on an iMac
> PPC iLamp.  I updated Fink using Fink Commander 0.5.5 and downloaded
> Gnome among other stuff that FC thought I'd want.  

What package, by name, did you install?  If you installed
"gnome-desktop", that isn't all of GNOME, by any stretch of the imagination.

I read through the
> FAQ and took notes.  I already had Apple X11 installed, but then I saw
> in the notes to not use it, 

Was this on our site?  As far as I know we don't discourage use of
Apple's X11 on 10.4.

so I typed "startx" in a Terminal window and
> got XFree to launch an "X" quartz window???  And I tried to type
> something like what I've found on the FAQ to try to get Gnome to open a
> window, but so far it ain't doin' nothing . . . .  

What kind of window are you trying to open?  GNOME is a desktop environment.

When the X window
> didn't do anything I couldn't copy/paste from it, so I launched right
> from Apple X11 and tried some of the commands and got the same basic
> failure . . . . 

What do you mean by "The X window didn't do anything"?  Do you mean the
command sequences at the bottom of this message?



 How do I get Fink or Gnome to do anything?  A few days
> ago I got FC to load Mozilla and I typed "mozilla" in the X11 window and
> I got a browser page to open and I checked my email.  After I did an FC
> "update" it unloaded mozilla 

I'm not sure why it would have done that, unless you installed a package
that doesn't get along with mozilla.  Try reinstalling it.

and now there are no binaries for Firefox
> or SeaMonkey?  

Correct.  They have to be built from source by fink.

And nothing is happening.  When I typed "man" in the X
> window it says "check page 8 for commands and options."  When it asked
> me "what page do you want?"  I typed "8" and it said, "no such page." 

"man 8" means "section 8 of the manpages"  e.g. "man 8 <somecommand>"

 I
> tried "commands" and it gave me nothing, and "options" took me to
> something on widgets.  It seems like I'm very lost.  Just, how to
> "launch" Fink or Gnome would be helpful???
> 
> Help!!
> 
> Fritz H.
> LA, CA
> 
> [:~] % ./sw/bin/init.sh
> tcsh: ./sw/bin/init.sh: Command not found.

a)  You're using tcsh rather than bash, so the relevant script is
/sw/bin/init.csh

b)  ./sw/bin/init.sh means "run the /sw/bin/init.sh" which is in my
current working directory.  What you probably read was ".
/sw/bin/init.sh", which is "read in /sw/bin/init.sh".  For tcsh, you
want "source /sw/bin/init.csh"

c)  Moreover, this is supposed to be run automatically when you start a
new shell session.

> [:~] % ./sw/bin/init.sh quartz-wm --only-proxy & exec gnome-session
> [1] 19441
> tcsh: gnome-session: Command not found.
> tcsh: ./sw/bin/init.sh: Command not found.

The command sequence above was supposed to be placed in a $HOME/.xinitrc
file, not run from a terminal prompt.

The above indicates that you either don't have the gnome-session package
installed or you don't have the fink path set up.  What do you get from
"fink list gnome-session"?

> [:~] fritzhud% sudo rm -rf/usr/x11R6/etc/X11
> Password:
> rm: illegal option -- /
> usage: rm [-f | -i] [-dPRrvW] file ...
>        unlink file
> [1]  + Exit 1                        ./sw/bin/init.sh quartz-wm --only-proxy
> [:~] %
> 

Spaces and case are important.  That should have been

sudo rm -rf /usr/X11R6 /etc/X11

But I'd recommend _not_ necessarily removing Apple's X11 while you're
still getting the hang of Fink.

- -- 
Alexander Hansen, Ph.D.
Fink User Liaison
http://finkakh.wordpress.com/
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