-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 4/11/11 10:08 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote: > Dr Hansen: > > OK, thanks for your reply. In terms of my rambling paragraph, I don't > know enough to know what my "one issue" is to ask just one question. > I'm just trying to get Fink to "start" . . . but I don't know what that > means to you to ask it in a way that might be easy. This is the > "beginners list" and I'm a beginner with Fink and even Terminal. It > doesn't mean too much if I can type "man" in a Terminal window or an X > window and I get a page of data.
Our "beginners" list caters to "beginners to Fink". "Beginners to the command line" is a topic which is a bit beyond the normal scope of the list. In answer to one of your questions, > yes, the information about Apple X11 not being compatible with the X11 > installed by Fink is from the Fink site > <http://www.finkproject.org/doc/x11/index.php> . . . . That's the top-level page. I see no "incompatible" there. And on http://www.finkproject.org/doc/x11/inst-xfree86.php?phpLang=en#apple-binary we specifically mention Apple's X11 distribution for 10.4. And I see now > the X is the same case in both. And, thanks for the info on tcsh v bash > . . . that must be the default setting?? > > But, to avoid rambling, you haven't 'splained it to me about how to > simply "start" what might be termed a "fink" session or how to simply > start using "fink" . . . because when I type "fink" into the X window . > . . a short list is the only thing that shows up. So, in an effort to > avoid rambling, reading the Fink FAQ seems to go over a lot of info of > things to watch out for, but, where does it discuss how to begin at the > most basic level?? if there is such a thing. When I type "startx" I get > the X-quartz window??? Sure. That's a function of how your X11 is set up. but when I type those other commands or if I > type "fink" . . . I get some terms like "list" "apropos" "index" and > some options like "-h" and so forth. But, how to begin at the beginning > so that Fink is usable as an OS if that's what it is? It is not. It's a set of tools to automate building and installing packages. "fink" is a command that takes verbs. For example: fink install <packagename>: tell fink to install the package given by <packagename>, including all dependencies along the way. fink list: list all packages Fink Commander is a front end that runs the various commands. > > I used FC to "update" Fink from the original PPC for 10.4.11 download > from the Fink site and the update download took at least 1.5 hours on a > DSL line, We can't control your network connection. (Personally, I'm grateful for DSL, after dealing with a severely capped satellite connection for several months) and I see that it went from 99 apps to 126 apps. gnome-base > 2.4.1-1 is current. gnome-mime 2.4.1-5 and gnome-vfs2 2.6.1.1-1017 are > outdated. And there are many other listings for gnome that seem to > repeat, so which are the relevant apps that are needed? You can adjust the width of the package name field in Fink Commander. "outdated" means that we have a newer version available than what you've installed. That may or may not be available to you, depending on if you're using only prebuilt binaries, or if you're downloading sources and compiling and installing them. The guy on the > Apple Unix list said the FC "knows what needs to be installed if you > pick one app in gnome and it will install all the needed packages." But > clearly that didn't happen? Don't necessarily believe what some guy on an arbitrary list says about Fink. What he said was true, but only if you pick the _right_ package. "bundle-gnome" is what you want to install if you want all of the base GNOME stuff > ========================= > What do I get from "fink list gnome-session" in both a Terminal window > and an X11 window is: fink list gnome-session > "Information about 5163 packages read in 3 seconds. > gnome-session 2.28.0-2 Login session management" > > But FC doesn't show that "gnome-session" is installed. Right. Your output indicates that gnome-session is _not_ installed. > =================== > I'm not sure why it would have done that, unless you installed a package > that doesn't get along with mozilla. Try reinstalling it. > > Alright on re-installing Mozilla: there are "mozilla 1.7.5-1102," Install that two > listings for "mozilla- " "mozilla-dom" mozilla-js mozilla- again, > mozilla-psm and mozilla-shlibs. Do I install all of them or will FC > know which I need? Fink will know what you need. Also, adjust the width of the package name field in Fink Commander to see the full names of packages. > ============================ > Thank you for your time, I need a little more information than provided > as to how to get rolling using Fink, sorry for the ramble--another link > beyond the Fink FAQ? > > Fritz H > > > > > Look at the Users Guide, which is more like a manual. - -- Alexander Hansen, Ph.D. Fink User Liaison http://finkakh.wordpress.com/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk2kPhEACgkQB8UpO3rKjQ/SbwCdGdKcsExgT3LehzF3YZMEHe3U qmMAmwazdB1Qoic4FUoBVp5PqUqyxfPB =5jU1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Forrester Wave Report - Recovery time is now measured in hours and minutes not days. 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