> On Nov 16, 2014, at 7:21 AM, Sean Lake <odysseus9...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Nov 16, 2014, at 7:13, Alexander Hansen <alexanderk.han...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2014, at 7:02 AM, Sean Lake <odysseus9...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 16, 2014, at 6:55, Alexander Hansen <alexanderk.han...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 15, 2014, at 6:53 PM, Sean Lake <odysseus9...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ok, fixed it. Installed Oracle’s Java.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sean
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 15, 2014, at 17:52, Sean Lake <odysseus9...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’m getting multiple packages, especially gnucash2, complaining about 
>>>>>> the lack of system-java16-dev on my new mac. I’ve installed 
>>>>>> java_for_os_x_2013005_dp__11m4609.dmg, but it doesn’t seem to have 
>>>>>> rectified the problem. Running fink apropos java, I get:
>>>>>> i      system-java     1.6.0-1 [virtual package representing Java 1.6.0]
>>>>>> i      system-java16   1.6.0-1 [virtual package representing Java 1.6.0]
>>>>>>    system-java16-dev       1.6.0-1 [virtual package representing Java 
>>>>>> 1.6.0 development headers]
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What do I need to install to get that last package?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Sean
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> sudo fink install gnucash2
>>>>>> Password:
>>>>>> Information about 10219 packages read in 0 seconds.
>>>>>> Can't resolve dependency "system-java-dev" for package 
>>>>>> "bison-legacy-2.7.1-1"
>>>>>> (no matching packages/versions found)
>>>>>> Exiting with failure.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> fink --version
>>>>>> Package manager version: 0.38.2
>>>>>> Distribution version: selfupdate-rsync Sat Nov 15 14:55:28 2014, 10.10, 
>>>>>> x86_64
>>>>>> Trees: local/main stable/main stable/crypto
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry for the confusion here.  We have two versions of the availability 
>>>> code for virtual packages;
>>>> 
>>>> 1)  The package shows up in the list as not installed if it isn’t detected.
>>>> 2)  The package doesn’t show up in the list at all if it isn’t detected.
>>>> 
>>>> I prefer 2) to be used for virtual packages which are impossible to 
>>>> install on certain OS versions, and 1) for packages which are always 
>>>> possible to satisfy.   We might want to switch system-java-dev over to 1). 
>>>>  Option 1) has fink go through an install procedure and then gives a more 
>>>> verbose error message, so it seems more appropriate here.
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Alexander Hansen, Ph.D.
>>>> Fink User Liaison
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks, but I don’t know if that would address the issue I was having. 
>>> 
>>> In this particular case, installing Apple’s latest Java didn’t satisfy the 
>>> requirement for system-java16-dev. That tells me that either the detection 
>>> in system-java16-dev is busted, or Apple’s Java is broken in a way that 
>>> makes it unable to fulfill that need. If it is the latter case, it would be 
>>> helpful if the instructions on 10.10 were updated to specify Oracle’s Java 
>>> is needed.
>>> 
>>> Thanks again,
>>> Sean
>> 
>> The detection system worked just fine for me when last I checked it (a 
>> couple of weeks ago).
>> 
>> When you say “Apple’s latest java”, does that mean the legacy SDK?  
>> http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1572 
>> Your package list suggests not.
>> 
>> What java is needed depends on the package.  Some packages just want _a_ 
>> Java, and some won’t build using Oracle’s.  Other older packagers may want 
>> system-java16 because at the time it was the newest option.
>> -- 
>> Alexander Hansen, Ph.D.
>> Fink User Liaison
>> 
> 
> I installed the files available from Apple’s developer site in the dmg file 
> named: java_for_os_x_2013005_dp__11m4609.dmg . It was the newest Java 
> installer Apple had listed on developer.apple.com’s developer member site. 
> That file you linked is newer (2013–005 vs 2014-001), so I’ll install it. 
> Regardless, all of the packages I installed seemed happy with the Oracle 
> install I did.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Sean


The 2014-001 package definitely suffices for system-java16-dev.  No clue why 
it’s not listed developer.apple.com <http://developer.apple.com/>, but we 
definitely can be more explicit about where to get it.

-- 
Alexander Hansen, Ph.D.
Fink User Liaison

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