Max Horn wrote: > At 16:19 Uhr +0200 03.06.2002, Kurt Pfeifle wrote: > [...] > >> >> From Thursday on LinuxTag, we'll have access to the Net without a proxy, >> so the real fun could start then.... >> >> BTW, are you coming to visit LinuxTag? Guessing from your phone no., >> you don't seem to be too far away.... ;-) > > > No I won't attend.
Big pity. > Besides the fact that I really am not doing anything > with Linux, there is no other really compelling reason for me. Wrong argument. LinuxTag is not an exactly matching name. It is about Free software. Fink is Free too, isn't it? And there are quite a few *BSD types to be met there too.... > In > addition I am attending JabberConf Europe > (http://www.jabberconf.com/europe/) only a few days later, and > immediatly after that I am on a 3 day seminar. Considering that I also > study & work, this is already stressing me enough :-) OK -- guess, everybody needs to accept these kind of arguments > > However, if I know some people that I can look forward to talk to, maybe > I'll drop by during one day :-) > Oh -- there is hope? Well, then you'll be able to explain to some people about Fink. I would even grant you 15 minutes at the beamer of our booth (Linuxprinting.org, just beside the KDE booth...). And maybe to talk to KDE-ers could also be interesting, in case you don't know them yet... > > >>> >>>> >>>> http://transconnect.sourceforge.net/ >>> >>> >>> >>> Yup found it. Compiling it is easy (provided one uses dlcompat, which >>> is e.g. available via Fink). Using these in the Makefile: >>> >>> CFLAGS = -Wall -I/sw/include -Dsocklen_t=int >>> LDFLAGS = -bundle -L/sw/lib >>> >>> I can't test it though (no proxy here :-), it's might not work this >>> way. I.e. the dlopen might have to be changed to be like on other >>> BSDs (see source code) etc. You need to experiemnt. >>> >> >> A quick check told me that it did at least compile now... Function test >> later.... > > > It certainly would be nice to have it. You will need to use the Darwin > equivalend of LD_PRELOAD, see "man dyld". > ah, good hint. I would have used LD_PRELOAD and then given up for a while.... ;-) > >>>> >>>> As I said, I took the downloaded source from the Apple website, >>>> which seems >>>> to be derived from the current CVS of CUPS (it says it is CUPS >>>> 1.1.15, which >>>> is not yet released..), with pstoraster taken away... >>> >>> >>> >>> Yeah I saw that. Besides some new features/bug fixes, it should be >>> identical to our 1.1.14 package though (though we do include >>> pstoraster and the cups fonts). >>> >> >> pstoraster is derived from Ghostscript 5.50. Ghostscript wasn't >> licensed by >> Apple for commercial use and therefor is not included... > > > OK. > >> >> BTW, do you know about "ESP Ghostscript"?. > > > Yes, in the sense of that I know it exists and what it is, but never > used it. > > >> It is made by the CUPS developers, >> and is released under GPL. Its latest version is espgs-7.0.5-2. It >> includes >> many bugfixes compared to the same version of AFPL Ghostscript, and >> even some >> compared to GNU Ghostscript 7.0.5-2. Most important: it includes the >> CUPS- >> specific patches. Those will compile a "pstoraster" device inside >> Ghostscipt >> fit for usage instead of the pstoraster which is in place internally in >> CUPS-1.1.14. This new model will be used in CUPS from 1.1.15 (out soon). > > > Cool. Guess we might want a package for it... but that's Jeffrey's > domain :-) > > >> It is done in lookahead of coming license changes for Ghostscript. The >> new >> maintainer of Ghostscript, Raph Levien wants to change the license to a >> GPL-only policy, since the originator, L.Peter Deutsch has retired. > > > Oops. OK. > >> First some chunks of legacy code from 3rd parties need to be rewritten >> in Ghostscript. >> This will likely produce a more unified Ghostscript amongst >> distributions and >> enables the CUPS folks to rely on it instead of needing to secure >> "their own" >> to make sure it works with CUPS... > > > > Would be very nice. BTW do you or anybody know by chance if 10.2 is > going to fix the PDF problems that occur when using ghostscript7 ? I.e. > GS 7 produces PDF that OS X 10.1 doesn't grok. I don't know any details, but have heard about some changes to that effect. > Of course I could test > myself but I haven't yet set up my 10.2 system with anything besides the > core system :-) > You're in possesion of a "Jaguar"? I was offered one too, but had to decline. I am writing about the forthcoming CUPS printing system in 10.2, but using Jaguar would have required to sign a NDA which would prevent me from writing about it.... > > >>> >>> >>>>> We did link against cups in the past, but back then only cups >>>>> 1.1.10 was available in Fink and completly unusable, >>>> >> >> I'm surprised about the "completely unusable" statement. I've been using >> it since the first Beta releases 3 years ago. Of course there were >> problems >> coming and going with releases, but to me it was always usable. > > > I am talking about the Fink package, not cups :-) cups previous 1.1.15 > for example can't build shared libraries on Darwin/OS X; and even the > current one has a bad configure script (see also my cups 1.1.14 patch in > CVS), which breaks "make install prefix=..." - make install ignores that > prefix for some files and uses the compile time prefix instead, making > it impossible to package it properly. Luckily it's trivial to fix the > configure script. > Did you bother to get in touch with Mike Sweet about it? Mike is the lead developer of CUPS and very responsive for these kind of reports and suggestions... (mailto:mike.at.easysw.com) > >> >> Seems there were no people in your camp knowledgable about it ? I will be >> happy to contribute what I know... > > > Sure that would be most welcome! As I said, the problem is not really > cups, but rather the package was broken and I had not time to fix it up > till some days ago. I still have no time to learn & test it properly, so > your help is most welcome. You can get the new cups package from our > unstable CVS. Does "unstable" always mean "CVS"? I can access CVS through our proxy -- but only from Linux so far... > If need be I can also send you the .info/.patch files (or > you can get them via (Web)CVS). > > >> But note: I am not a programmer. I am "only" a documentation writer.... > > > Well but you know how to use Cups, which I don't, thus we should > complement well enough <g> > > [..�] > > >> >> Cheers, >> Kurt [ who hopes one or more of you will come visit us at >> LinuxTag. There are two booths were you will be most >> certainly very welcome: KDE and Linuxprinting.org...] > > > Hehehe :-) Are you there all three days? *Four* days. Starts Thursday, ends Sunday. Building the booth and installing the machines from Tuesday evening... > Karlsruhe isn't far after all, > I might come after all :-) > I am looking forward then to meet you in person :-) > > Cheers, > > Max Bye, Kurt _______________________________________________________________ Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference August 25-28 in Las Vegas -- http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.cfm _______________________________________________ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel
