In a country so fond of the death penalty, this is more a procedural issue.

Making it a substantive issue is perilous.  The Japanese student looking for the 
Halloween party in Louisiana and the drunken Scots tourist in Texas did not "need 
killin'."

Some of us are a bit reluctant to submit the question to a jury of one, and a jury of 
12 is only a marginal improvement.  Of course, I deal myself out of the question by 
opposing the death penalty.  I don't oppose self-defense, but the use of deadly force 
needs some bright lines around it and there is a consistent tendency on this list to 
blur them.

Steve Russell

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At 8:59 PM +1000 3/28/04, Tim Lambert wrote:

>Here we go again.  Just like in the Tony Martin case, the version of
>the story propgated by pro-gunners omits the facts that show that the
>killing was not done in self defence.  Lindsay stabbed Swindells FOUR
>TIMES in the back while Swindells was fleeing.

  In any event, as they teach Frontier Utilitarianism in Southwestern 
Philosophy, the real question is whether the world is a better place 
minus Swindells, or as one of the great minds in the field phrased 
the test, "Did he need killin'?"
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