"Clayton E. Cramer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Do you have > another source that indicates that the killing took place outside?
http://www.thisislancashire.co.uk/lancashire/archive/2004/03/25/NEWS8ZM.html Carl Lindsay, aged 25, of Hollyoake Road, Walkden, was cleared of murdering Stephen Swindells on the 11th day of the 16 day trial at Manchester Crown Court, but was convicted of manslaughter. The jury heard how drug dealer Lindsay was in his Walkden flat at 9.45pm on February 27, 2003 when he answered the door to four men carrying loaded handguns. One of them was Mr Swindells, aged 33, of Harwood Court, Salford and he was accompanied by Darren Ashton, 29, of Coniston Avenue, Little Hulton, 30-year-old David Ryan, of Culverwell Drive, Salford and Michael Page, 25, of Trentlamlawns, Salford. The court was told the men had gone to Lindsay's flat to rob him. They demanded cash and searched the dealer before Lindsay suddenly whirled round holding a 12 inch samurai sword at shoulder height. The gang fled with about �200 but dropped half of it as they ran. There was a scuffle in the hallway during which Lindsay stabbed Swindells four times in the back. He died soon afterwards from massive blood loss. Jailing Lindsay for eight years Mr Justice Hughes said the dealer had been severely provoked and initially acted in self defence. "As they fled you stabbed one assailant four times in the back," he told Lindsay. "You took a life by deliberate retaliation using a lethal weapon you kept in your home when aware you were a high risk target." Appearing in the dock alongside Lindsay were the robbers Ashton, Ryan and Page. There were loud gasps from the public gallery when they were each jailed for 14 years for armed robbery. -------------------------------------- Note that the judge said that Lindsay had initially acted in self defence -- it was the subsequent back stabbing that wasn't self defence. -- Tim _______________________________________________ To post, send message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/firearmsregprof
