At 1:09 PM -0500 9/26/03, Robert Woolley wrote:
> To the best of my knowledge, there are now 18 states that have all three of
> the following:
>
> 1) Shall-issue laws (or practices)
> 2) Broad state preemption of local governments' authority over firearms
> 3) No statutory prohibition on permit holders carrying pistols in most
> governmental buildings.
>
> The states are Alabama, Alaska, Idaho, Kentucky, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota,
> New Hampshire, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas,
> Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, Wyoming.

I believe you will want to add Arizona to that list.

We have broad state pre-emption, although cities continually insist on
trying the boundaries of it (e.g., Tucson with its ban on carry in public
parks and its ban on gun shows on public property).

State law also provides that any government building that posts a "no guns"
sign must provide facilities for you to check your gun, or their sign has
no force.  Again, government entities (e.g., the Department of Revenue, see
http://free_arizona.tripod.com/beginnings.htm and
http://free_arizona.tripod.com/checking_guns.htm) routinely violate this
law and wait to be called on it.

> Minnesota, as those of you following this list will already know, has had a
> spate of cities and counties enacting prohibitions on carrying guns in
> public buildings, despite state preemption laws.
>
> I'm interested in whether other states have had appellate court cases
> dealing with the same subject. I'm aware of the City of Ferndale case in
> Michigan earlier this year, but haven't been able to find any others.

> Have other states had local ordinances on carrying guns (ideally in public
> buildings, but I'd be interested in anything related to carrying guns in any
> location) challenged on the basis that they conflicted with state
> preemption?

Yes.  Ernie Hancock filed a special action last year with the Arizona
Supreme Court.  The Supreme Court declined to consider the case until Ernie
had exhausted his remedies in lower courts (although had they really
wanted, the law allows them to take the case directly under a special
action).  His filings are available at
http://free_arizona.tripod.com/ernie_special.htm and
http://free_arizona.tripod.com/ernie_response.htm
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