It's our own company's app, call webNetwork.  It's basically a virtual
web desktop, and contains dozens of apps inside it.  There are public
versions of it available, which could be used for debugging.  However,
most of the bugs i mentioned happen while i am changing code, which
can't as easily be done on a public site.

I have searched Bugzilla and came up some ticktets that may be related
to my issues:

1. 2028
3. 2948
5. 2647

Anways, to follow up on my previous comments, my feeling is that the
issues i face is probably common to anyone who uses a complicated app,
because i have them so easliy.  If the Firebug developers had some
kind of 'master complicated app', (e.g. - similar to google mail)
simple test cases would become obsolete as this app could be used to
duplicate all of the above issues.

On Jul 28, 1:55 pm, John J Barton <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Jul 28, 10:21 am, Prefontim <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I have posted over 10 tickets to the Bugzilla system with much success
> > at getting resolution as i don't post anymore unless i have a test
> > case.  However, all of the most serious bugs I face on a daily basis i
> > can't get resolution for because i can't come up with a test case.
> > With most of issues, i am debugging my fairly complicated webapps and
> > then things just stop working.  It is impossible to know exactly what
> > caused it, so a test case is hard to make.
>
> > For a complicated app, my companies apps all have many iframes.  Most
> > iframes have dojo in them, and dozens of other scripts.  There are
> > many dom transformations and xhr requests happening all the time.
> > WHen things go wrong with these kinds of apps, it is hard to simulate
> > issues with simple test cases.  It's hard just to reproduce them, in
> > general, as i don't noticed things are broken until i need them.
>
> > So, i thought i'd list all these bugs that i encounter on a daily
> > basis.  Most of them have been happening to me since I started using
> > Firebug (1.2 or 1.3).  What i am hoping is that maybe the Firebug
> > developers could take the opposite approach with these bugs.  Instead
> > of requiring a simple test case, maybe they could test against a
> > complicated app until they can reproduce some of them.  If not, maybe
> > others will post to this with experiences with these bugs.
>
> Which complicated app? It's not like I can see your screen from here.
>
> I'll give you the opposite story of frustration from my side: dojo
> users complain about firebug problems but rarely report bugs with test
> cases.  There are 4 bug reports related to dojo, none with test 
> cases:http://code.google.com/p/fbug/issues/list?can=2&q=dojo
>
>
>
> > 1. 'console is not defined' - this will start happening at random
> > times. browser must be restarted
> > 2. 'net panel stops working' - net panel will stop showing any
> > requests - browser must be restarted
> > 3. console stops working - console stops showing any logging
> > 4. script panel is empty - script panel will not have a script list -
> > browser must be restarted
> > 5. clicking line number does not add breakpoint - you click on a line
> > number and it does not look like it added a breakpoint, even though it
> > does. the breakpoint shows up only after you click the Watch tab
> > 6.  lockup - browser locks up and gets unresponse script errors inside
> > firebugs code.  must do force shutdown on browser.
>
> I don't know about any reports for the first 6 items.
>
> > 7. console shows errors from non-activated pages in other tabs.  - for
> > example, i might have Hotmail opened in a different tab, and i will
> > any errors from it in my tab.
>
> This particular one is well known to me. 1.6b1 will have another fix
> for this problem, but it's all hacks because Firefox does not support
> this feature directly.
>
> jjb

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