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On Jul 28, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Prefontim <[email protected]> wrote:

> It's our own company's app, call webNetwork.  It's basically a virtual
> web desktop, and contains dozens of apps inside it.  There are public
> versions of it available, which could be used for debugging.  However,
> most of the bugs i mentioned happen while i am changing code, which
> can't as easily be done on a public site.
> ...

Between a person who sees a problem  and a person who does not, who is better 
positioned to document it?  The person who sees it has a context, which while 
perhaps large, is a great deal more specific than the universe if possibilities 
the FB developers would have to explore.

An observation on this general class of issues:  perhaps it is inaccurate, but 
my sense in watching this forum, and others, is that quite frequently these 
difficult problems end up tracing back to something like an obscure error in 
the user's code or logic.  Often a simple typo.  The difficulty is basically in 
the way those often manifest themselves. Often is is very obscure, giving 
little clue to the true nature of what is going on.

My guess about concerns like the ones in this thread is that large, complex 
applications have a large number of places where code and logic errors can 
hide.  It is not so much an issue of having a large application for the 
developers to test with as much as it is having one with particular errors 
and/or interactions between different programming aids packages.

Perhaps if somewhere in the browser and/or related elements like FB it could be 
possible to have some sort of an option to give more extensive information 
about what is going on inside.  I suspect some of the most common issues around 
typos and the like have somewhat typical characteristics from the browser's 
point of view. Maybe more of that sort of thing could have options for being 
reported during development. 

Example- buried in the typical browser there are points where syntax errors are 
compensated for.  Most all the browsers tolerate a lot of erroneous code and do 
their best to move on rather then rejecting a page.  Maybe it would be possible 
to have an option to expose those events.  It would give developers a better 
chance to discover the source of problems (and maybe also help build high 
quality code in general).

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