On Jul 28, 7:20 pm, Prefontim <[email protected]> wrote:

 If the Firebug developers had some
> kind of 'master complicated app', (e.g. - similar to google mail)
> simple test cases would become obsolete as this app could be used to
> duplicate all of the above issues.

I'm sorry, but this is simply wrong, and if you go on believing it you
will continue to be disappointed.

While it is indeed helpful to have some complicated tests as well as
simple ones, they serve only the limited purpose of exercising the
system and showing that it is generally robust (or not :-).
In the first place there is not just one dimension of 'complicated':
Your complicated app is likely to be utterly different from the next
person's complicated app, and will in general show different problems.
Secondly, if one does show a problem, this may be helpful in showing
that the problem occurs, but be little help in isolating it, or
sometimes even in repoducing it. As Bob Hassinger says, usually people
who understand what the complicated system is trying to do will be
better at 1) knowing what they did to make it happen, 2) what kind of
thing they might do that is like that, and 3) what is likely to be
irrelevant. (They won't necessarily know these, of course, but they
can usually do them at least as well as the people who are maintaining
a general tool).
Thirdly, such tests typically take a lot of time to run, and may be
difficult to automate. This is a problem even for expensive commercial
tools where there is a budget for machine and people time to run them.
For volunteer projects it is extremely difficult.

Small, well-specified and controlled automatic tests are FAR more
effective than big amorphous ones (though again I say, there is a
place for the big ones).

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