On 7/30/10, John J Barton <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On Jul 30, 10:00 am, Garrett Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 7/29/10, John J Barton <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> > On Jul 29, 5:39 am, Prefontim <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> I would agree with the general tenor of these responses, in that
>> >> complicated apps are not as good for automation or for tracking down
>> >> issues once they are found.  However, they are much better than simple
>> >> tests at actually discovering issues in the first place.   If a
>> >> complicated app was constructed by the Firebug team, and they simply
>> >> just used the app for 15 minutes, they would probably discover
>> >> multiple issues.  Since they made the app, they would be in a position
>> >> to debug it effectively.
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>> > We already do this. We use the Firebug code to debug a complex 40kloc
>> > application using a wide spectrum of Web and XUL technologies. Rather
>> > than 15 minutes, we use it all day every day. And yes it has allowed
>> > us to discover many issues in Firebug code. (The application is called
>> > "firebug" in case you are interested ;-).
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>> > I think that your analysis is missing three important aspects related
>> > to the scale of these issues.
>>
>> > First, while you imagine that 'everyone' has the problems you have, it
>> > just cannot be true. With 2.6 million users, only a tiny fraction
>> > report problems.
>>
>> OK, but don't expect a lack of reports for a lack of errors.
>>
>> Sometimes it is necessary to restart Firefox to get Firebug working.
>> SOmetimes just opening a new tab works and that is easier, so I
>> usually try that first. I have experienced all of the OP's 7 items, so
>> that's how I know.
>>
>> I'm sorry I can't be of more help. I don't know what triggers the
>> problems and so I haven't been able to file a proper bug report.
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> A good place to start is
> 1. Open firebug tracing panel with option ERRORS
> 2. The first time you have a problem, check the trace.
> 3. Whether or not there is any info in the trace, describe exactly
> what the problem is. 'net panel stops working' is not enough. Is it
> blank? is the Console panel still showing XHR? If you set NET on the
> tracing options do you see stuff?
>
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>> Maybe the someone has time can take one bug and investigate it and
>> hopefully provide more detail (steps to repro, etc).
>
> Only you two with the problem c

No, not only us two; the OP is bringing up bugs that others have
reported. Looking at the bugtracker:
 2948:           Console stops working (No XHR or log outputs)

With comment from " lisman.aaron, Apr 12, 2010" and " gullevek, Jun
17, 2010" confirming the same.

http://code.google.com/p/fbug/issues/detail?id=2948&q=console%20stops%20working&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Owner%20Test%20Summary

I have other issues at the moment and a ton of stuff on my plate.
Sorry, there are real issues. They don't bug me enough to motivate me
to investigate further. I'm just busy with a bunch of stuff. Thanks.

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