At 13:15 01/09/00 +0200, Thomas Lopatic wrote:
>Whoops, I forgot something. Sorry to mess up the threading.
>
> > Finally, if the event shows that FW1 is vulnerable, then my recommendation
> > is o switch to another product, such as the Gauntlet (I don't work for NAI,
> > it simpy happens that I know this one better than others).
>
>Would you say that SINIX is more secure than Solaris?

That'll be at least the 3d time, but let me repeat it again. "such as" 
means this
is an example,  the "recommendation" is to switch _IF_ "the event shows...".


>  After all, I can
>hardly remember any published vulnerability. *g* And this is exactly the
>point that I have forgotten to make: Up to now probably not that many
>whitehats have bothered to closely examine firewalls apart from
>FireWall-1, since you hardly find any at customer sites.

oh yes, and no medicine has been found for AIDS because it is rare?

My friend, gimme facts, just facts. FW1 vulnerbailities are a fact.
The rest is conjectures.


>  (Although I am
>told such things exist. *g*) Same with DG/UX. So, at the moment, I would
>recommend people to prefer FireWall-1 over Gauntlet _because_ the
>vulnerabilites have been found and FireWall-1 now has _less_
>vulnerabilites than before.

Are you really serious?
so, you will also say that windows2000 is more stable than Solaris,
given the number of fixed bugs?

Just because you take 2 balls from a bag doesn't mean it will contain less 
balls
than a second bag.

First, finding some bugs is not finding all the bugs, and one of software 
dev principles
is that the number of remaining bugs is generally an increasing function of 
the number
of those lready found. The more you find, the more you should think there are.

But I'll tell you what I think: You recommend FW1 over Gauntlet, probably 
because
you know it (FW1) much more.


cheers,
mouss







>Just compare the whole thing to a bowl of salad that a group of people
>is eating from. Once somebody finds a fly in it, everyone will stop
>eating from the bowl. Although now the fly is gone and there are now
>less flies in the bowl. And after all, each and every bowl of salad on
>this earth may potentially contain flies. Heh, human behaviour is quite
>irrational. :-)
>
>Thanks
>-Thomas
>
>--
>Thomas Lopatic, TUeV data protect GmbH, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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