On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Dave Gillett wrote:
> On 21 Jul 99, at 18:04, Matthew G . Harrigan wrote:
>
> > Last I checked, utilizing things such as port scanners, tcp fingerprinting
> > tools, and the like are not illegal, because there is no way to
> > disseminate legitimate system administration techniques (you'll notice that
> > enterprise network management packages which do network discovery utilize
> > all of the above.) from actual penetration attempts, unless the activity
> > yields someone actually gaining user level access to a said networked
> > device. I would find it hard to believe that someone could be prosecuted
> > based on something like an nmap scan.
>
> This is like saying that car theft can't be illegal because it would
> prevent anyone from ever driving! [Clue: It becomes criminal when you don't
> have the owner's permission....]
Did you obtain the permission to send mail to this mailing list from the
owner of the machine and network that it resides on? NO? YOU MUST BE
BREAKING THE LAW by sending your mail then... by your definition.
Internet servers are, by nature, somewhat public. This is the problem.
How do you define what's permissible and what isn't? The physical act of
connecting to an e-mail server is THE EXACT SAME as doing a port scan.
Except that you did it to a whole bunch of different ports. It's like
ringing the doorbell at the front door of someone's house, then going
around to the side door and ringing that one too.
Derek D. Martin | UNIX System Administrator
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